Victory data base

[DWalt]

Prior to this one, the highest Victory SN on my list with the early UNITED STATES PROPERTY stamp is V2787xx. So I have to assume that there was a considerable overlap in the stampings if V268514 has the U. S. PROPERTY stamping. Can anyone else get closer to the property stamp changeover SN?

 

[ordnanceguy]

Are there 4" Victory Models with UNITED STATES PROPERTY on the top strap?

Kevin:

Nope. The UNITED STATES PROPERTY left top strap marking was not used on 4 inch .38 Special Victory Model revolvers. The only .38 Special Victory Model revolvers that had the UNITED STATES PROPERTY left top strap marking were the 2 inch guns that shipped to Fort Mason, CA in December 1942.

 

[ordnanceguy]

Prior to this one, the highest Victory SN on my list with the early UNITED STATES PROPERTY stamp is V2787xx. So I have to assume that there was a considerable overlap in the stampings if V268514 has the U. S. PROPERTY stamping. Can anyone else get closer to the property stamp changeover SN?

The Victory Model Database shows guns in the V286000 range with the UNITED STATES PROPERTY left top strap marking. These are all 5 inch .38 S&W revolvers.

 

[kwill1911]

Thanks, Charlie. That was my understanding.

 

[DWalt]

The Victory Model Database shows guns in the V286000 range with the UNITED STATES PROPERTY left top strap marking. These are all 5 inch .38 S&W revolvers.

And I also show V2866xx and V2876xx with the U. S. PROPERTY topstrap stamping. So there must evidently be a considerable overlap period during which both were used, running from at least V268xxx to V287xxx.

 

[kwill1911]

My understanding is that there may be overlap in the numbers, but I think most collectors would consider the BSR a different model than the American Victory Model. Maybe that's just me.

 

[hudson 1]

new member seeking info on pre victory model 38

serial #984717 on butt strap. All serial numbers match including grips. any info greatly appreciated. 4" barrel smooth walnut grips lanyard loop sand blast finish.

 

[Absalom]

serial #984717 on butt strap. All serial numbers match including grips. any info greatly appreciated. 4" barrel smooth walnut grips lanyard loop sand blast finish.

Based on your description of the other one in the separate thread, you know what is important.

So with a 4" barrel and no topstrap property marking, it is most likely a gun shipped late spring 1942 either directly to the DSC or to a civilian end user on a DSC contract, like a defense contractor or police agency. Some early Navy guns were un-stamped, so that's a (less likely) possibility; same with the Maritime Commission.

I'd letter this one.

 

[hudson 1]

Thanks for info. I have 4 of these pistols. will learn how to better use the site and post pictures.

 

[hudson 1]

This is gun 3. 4" barrel,smooth walnut grips,lanyard ring,grips numbered to gun,sandblast finish. All serial numbers match. Bottom strap has ord bomb v219454 no top strap marks gun is near mint.

 

[Muley Gil]

Welcome to the Forum, hudson 1.

Please post pictures.

 

[Absalom]

This is gun 3. 4" barrel,smooth walnut grips,lanyard ring,grips numbered to gun,sandblast finish. All serial numbers match. Bottom strap has ord bomb v219454 no top strap marks gun is near mint.

Same as my post #1721, except early 1943 and I'd limit the possibilities to either a DSC contract gun shipped directly to an end user or statistically less likely a Maritime Commission gun. The latter do show up in obviously unissued condition from this time period more frequently than one would expect, for reasons unexplained.

 

[hudson 1]

Thanks for all info. Will try to figure out how to post pictures.

 

[hudson 1]

Can anyone help me w/pictures of correct British service revolvers i,e, grips, sights,markings. Thanks in advanvce. hudson1

 

[hilltop87]

can anyone help me with a little info on a victory ss# v 489236 5 in bbl? mfg date what country, agency, which service org or anything else. thank you

 

[Absalom]

can anyone help me with a little info on a victory ss# v 489236 5 in bbl? mfg date what country, agency, which service org or anything else. thank you

All we can tell you from the serial number is that it likely shipped in late 1943 or early 1944. The 5" barrel means that it is most likely chambered in .38 S&W (although it may have been converted to .38 Special since the war), and is a former British Service model, sent to Britain or another Commonwealth nation like Canada or Australia under Lend-lease; any markings still present on the gun may or may not provide clues to that.

 

[GRI]

This is my Victory model. It is serial no. V773. It has an asterisk where you normally see British proof marks. I have been told that this means it went through an arsenal rework in India. Any information on this early Victory model would be appreciated. I believe it to be first or second day of production.

 

[charlie mac]

this is my first time is this where i ask a question

 

[Wiregrassguy]

Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! Not here, Charlie. Go to the top of the forum where you see all the threads listed and click on NEW THREAD which is an orange button at the upper left of the threads box. Create your question and give us as much information as possible. If your question is regarding identification of a gun you have, read the sticky post on ID'ing your gun first.

 

[Absalom]

This is my Victory model. It is serial no. V773. It has an asterisk where you normally see British proof marks. I have been told that this means it went through an arsenal rework in India. Any information on this early Victory model would be appreciated. I believe it to be first or second day of production.

The somewhat greyish-shiny finish does mesh with other Indian-refinished BSR's I've seen. But all those had an RFI stamp for Rifle Factory Ishapore somewhere on the barrel. My experience with those is limited, though.

"First or second day of production" is really meaningless on these since the BSR's had been produced in the identical Victory configuration (utility finish, smooth stocks, lanyard swivel) since at least the low 900-thousands and simply continued with V-prefix numbers when they hit 999,999. All that changed was the numbering.