I all for the new 19, it should bring down the prices on the older
models.
models.
S&W Model 19 announcement
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I would have guessed the opposite in the case of the 4 inch. Round butt, stainless barrel and IL all go to show they can't duplicate the original."They don't make em like that anymore" just enhances the value of the Model 19
I'll bet it has no effect on older (i.e., original) Model 19 prices whatsoever. It's a completely different market as I see it... those who want the real thing vs. those willing to settle for a newly-manufactured replica.
I certainly don't see this new version of the Model 19 affecting the prices of the older Model 19's. I think it will be people who want a Model 19 size revolver for shooting 357 Magnum without restrictions who will buy this new revolver. I also think bringing this new version to market is a good idea, but it will not significantly change the demand for the originals.
The Norseman
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"Classic" S&W Model 19 357Mag
Thank you Smith & Wesson for reintroducing another
Revolver to Market. I like it.
Collecting; like I always say, the Side Plate "Lock" and
Two Piece Shrouded Barrel are just another phase.
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They won't probably drive down prices but does add
leverage when dealing on a used piece. Buying something
new, untouched, and reliable, usually is always better.
Now, please bring back the "Classic" Stainless Steel
Mountain Gun in 45Colt, 44Mag, and 41Mag.
Thank you Smith & Wesson for reintroducing another
Revolver to Market. I like it.
Collecting; like I always say, the Side Plate "Lock" and
Two Piece Shrouded Barrel are just another phase.
.
They won't probably drive down prices but does add
leverage when dealing on a used piece. Buying something
new, untouched, and reliable, usually is always better.
Now, please bring back the "Classic" Stainless Steel
Mountain Gun in 45Colt, 44Mag, and 41Mag.
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357 shooter
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Yeah , some of the pre-lock , pre MIM , 19s I see selling on online auctions go for some pretty amazing prices. I would be interested in hearing how accurate this new 19 is. Some of my most accurate Smiths are my 1990 and newer 686-4s, 66-5 and 629-5.
I've never had an opportunity to shoot a two piece barrel gun before, but I've not seen any complaints on Dan Wesson guns and very very few on S&W's - except maybe one loosening up?
So S&W really does read this forum! Now if they'd only release a classic 2 1/2" bbl.
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medic15al
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When I worked for Wackenhut security CPO we were issued the early 2 piece pre-lock Model 64s and frankly, I was amazed at the accuracy!
Softball size group total shot at 25 yds in to 3 yds ALA POST standards Double action with bulk Winchester 158 ball rounds! Very smooth DA pull as well. Almost as if a action job was done.
I am a walnut and blued steel man. Occasional stainless. Hate black and plastic, and am not real fond of alloys either
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Think this will be available with the 3 T's?? Might make the gougers on some of the gun sites lower their prices On older guns
Regardless of all these comments....I relish the fine workmanship and quality of my older 19 (and look alike 17). We must understand that the new (improved?)versions are the result of company demands for lower costs in production, material and possibly quality control. Here's to more talk and shooting!
I've had 3, m19s in 4" in last year, no boxes but near mint. I
let them all go at $750 or less, one on forum last week for
$680 shipped, very nice shape with Patridge front. The only
reason it caught my attention. It didn't stay long, I missed it
while PMed owner. I normally don't do 4" and only blue. Not
everyone is a S&W collector and there are a lot of 19s in the
wood work. No doubt largest part of production over the years
with police purchases.
let them all go at $750 or less, one on forum last week for
$680 shipped, very nice shape with Patridge front. The only
reason it caught my attention. It didn't stay long, I missed it
while PMed owner. I normally don't do 4" and only blue. Not
everyone is a S&W collector and there are a lot of 19s in the
wood work. No doubt largest part of production over the years
with police purchases.
Darn I should have passed on my old M19-3 4" like new for $300,but guess I can live with it. They do not turn up very often anymore. The new one will fill in the gap for those searching today. I am happy with the old old one. I like the carbon blue guns,they are smoother and hold up better than stainless.
They should build the "Classic" lines as per the most desired engineering change of the originals; no lock, no frame mounted firing pin, no MIM parts, etc...along with the actual enhancements such as the forcing cone and ball detent in the new K-frames. I would buy one in that case...even if it cost a bit more.
cowboy4evr
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On the 2 piece barrel thing . A few years ago I had a Dan Wesson , model 15 and it was incredibly accurate . I'm considering another one . I just bought another S&W model 19-5 nickel , 4 " barrel last week . Will have to wait a spell , Regards, Paul
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medic15al
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I too, love the carbon steel blued guns... I picked up a near Mint Model 19-4 TH/TT at a gunshow for only $350.
That said, I like the new one w/ lock removed and plugged, and with the PC's Master Revolver Action Job it would be one to for security duty/carry/around the farm/house gun.
It makes the firearms compatible with Canadian law which requires a 105MM minimum barrel length
Tom,
The Dan Wessons can get loose as well. Back when I used to shoot silhouette, typically the first thing I did was put the wrench on the barrel nut.
Now that the Dan Wesson patents have expired, Smith and Wesson has had the opportunity to give us some amazingly accurate revolvers using the multi-piece, tensioned, barrel design.
One of the first things that shooters comment on when I let them try my 327 TRR8 or 327 JM is how good they make the shooter look
I am looking forward to picking up one of the new Model 19s. Hopefully equipped with a 2 3/4" barrel like the new Model 66 has.
If you make it to Florida, I have plenty of multi-piece, tensioned, barreled Smith and Wessons or Dan Wessons for you to try
