SQUIB removal I need help

[hillbillydruggist]

I have a 17HMR snubnose Taurus revolver. I had ordered it through Davidsons Gallery of Guns. a few months ago I was firing it and had a squib load.
I brought it back to the LGS where I had purchased it, they sent it to Davidsons who sent it to Taurus, they said it was the ammos fault. I ended up paying $112 (which Davidsons & Taurus have warranties).
I just picked it up today, I checked barrel to make sure it was clear, fired one shot, another squib load(this was a different brand of ammo.
I contacted Davidsons, they said contact Taurus who said the only reason for a squib load is the ammo and I would have to pay again.
Is ammo the only possibility?
How do I remove it?

any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks

 

[6string]

Two squibs in a row with different ammo?
Hmm....
Sounds like the barrel is out of spec (too tight?)

You'll need an appropriate rod and some penetrating oil.
I'd remove the cylinder and find a suitable hardwood block to fit in the cylinder window. If you can, then mount the wood block in a bench vise.
The slug should tap out easily once the gun is secured.
The rod diameter needs to be .150"-.160" to fit the bore w/o damage. I think maple dowel would work. Certainly wouldn't hurt. A brass rod is another option.
I'd avoid aluminum or steel.

Best Wishes,
Jim

 

[arjay]

Pick up a brass rod of the right diameter (hobby shop) cut it short and use it with a small hammer to tap it back from the muzzle

 

[Minorcan]

I would suspect a barrel issue. Use the rod to determine where the round stopped. The get some different diameter brass rods and check to see if there is step down or issue there.

 

[Wrangler Rich]

If I may, could I ask what the two brands of ammo were?

 

[Peak53]

If this is an ammo issue, you should stock up on lottery tickets. Somebody is going to have to accurately measure the barrel. That would not be me.

 

[Protected One]

I have a 17HMR snubnose Taurus revolver. I had ordered it through Davidsons Gallery of Guns. a few months ago I was firing it and had a squib load.
I brought it back to the LGS where I had purchased it, they sent it to Davidsons who sent it to Taurus, they said it was the ammos fault. I ended up paying $112 (which Davidsons & Taurus have warranties).
I just picked it up today, I checked barrel to make sure it was clear, fired one shot, another squib load(this was a different brand of ammo.
I contacted Davidsons, they said contact Taurus who said the only reason for a squib load is the ammo and I would have to pay again.
Is ammo the only possibility?
How do I remove it?

any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks

I've had one squib round, and I simply had the ranges armorer remove it for me. Cost $10 ...and it was surplus Israeli ammo, which I refuse to buy anymore (along with reloads).

Two squibs with different ammo??? Sounds like a barrel problem to me as well.

 

[DWalt]

I always carry metal rods (wrapped with masking tape to prevent bore scratching) in my range toolbox for such events. Haven't had many of them. When you drive out the bullet, measure its diameter if you have a dial or digital caliper or a micrometer. Once, a good possibility it is the ammo. Twice, something else seems wrong, like a severely undersized bore. If the bullet diameter is much below about 0.170" then you have a very tight bore. I have no idea how that could happen at the factory.

One other possibility - check for a very large cylinder-barrel gap. It shouldn't be more than around 0.008", but I don't know what the Taurus inspection requirement for the gap width is. Optimum gap is usually considered to be around 0.005"

 

[Pisgah]

By any chance, has this revolver had it's trigger pull "enhanced" by clipping the mainspring? Doing so can have profound effects a rimfire revolver, including weak or nonexistent cartridge ignition.

 

[hillbillydruggist]

If I may, could I ask what the two brands of ammo were?

Federal and CCI

 

[hillbillydruggist]

By any chance, has this revolver had it's trigger pull "enhanced" by clipping the mainspring? Doing so can have profound effects a rimfire revolver, including weak or nonexistent cartridge ignition.

No totally stock

 

[hillbillydruggist]

just got through chat with Taurus, they said they replaced the barrel and fired 20 rounds through

 

[crankyoldlady]

just got through chat with Taurus, they said they replaced the barrel and fired 20 rounds through

Was this bbl replacement documented on the repair bill you paid? And why would they replace a bbl if there was nothing wrong with it?

Something smells fishy.

 

[hillbillydruggist]

Was this bbl replacement documented on the repair bill you paid? And why would they replace a bbl if there was nothing wrong with it?

Something smells fishy.

I have them stating that on the chat

 

[Ματθιας]

It sounds like you got a lemon. Being a Taurus, I'm not surprised.

Doesn't that Gallery of Guns have a "replacement warranty"?

If they do, it might be a good idea to have that defective one replaced with a new one. (i'd be demanding a new one, especially being out an extra $112!) Then sell the new one and be done buying anything Taurus.

 

[oink]

If it's the ammo I would suspect something about ammo storage. How old, how long have you had it, did it come from the same place or store, where did you store it if you've had it awhile??? I got some bad rimfire a good while back that was defective. I hadn't had it long. I called the factory and they wanted it sent back, which they did. They replaced it and let me know that somewhere along the line it had been exposed to chemical fumes. I think, but I don't remember for sure, they thought ammonia fumes. I think I bought them (a brick) at Wallyworld. Point being, do you think both batches of ammo had the opportunity to both get exposed to the same bad environment during storage?

 

[hillbillydruggist]

If it's the ammo I would suspect something about ammo storage. How old, how long have you had it, did it come from the same place or store, where did you store it if you've had it awhile??? I got some bad rimfire a good while back that was defective. I hadn't had it long. I called the factory and they wanted it sent back, which they did. They replaced it and let me know that somewhere along the line it had been exposed to chemical fumes. I think, but I don't remember for sure, they thought ammonia fumes. I think I bought them (a brick) at Wallyworld. Point being, do you think both batches of ammo had the opportunity to both get exposed to the same bad environment during storage?

I had 3 brands CCI federal Hornady they were sealed plastic boxes they have lived in a closed storage room for a few years, but they are over 10 yrs old. all my other rifle, pistol, 22lr, shotgun and all have shot fine.

 

[hillbillydruggist]

It sounds like you got a lemon. Being a Taurus, I'm not surprised.

Doesn't that Gallery of Guns have a "replacement warranty"?

If they do, it might be a good idea to have that defective one replaced with a new one. (i'd be demanding a new one, especially being out an extra $112!) Then sell the new one and be done buying anything Taurus.

they do have a replacement policy but they are not made anymore.

 

[Drm50]

I would call Davidsons and get my money back, along with the
repair bill. Don't take no for an answer. If you get refused ask to
talk to manager, ect. They may offer to give you a substitute.

 

[Funflyer]

Was this bbl replacement documented on the repair bill you paid? And why would they replace a bbl if there was nothing wrong with it?

Something smells fishy.

Taurus had to have known there was a problem with this design for a long time. Read the 4th post in the below thread. Coincidence?

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