This is what happens when there is no 2nd Amendment
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schutzen-jager
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list compares to the New jersey assault rifle ban that has been in force for over 3 decades - no serious attempts to contest it from NRA or state associate - complete + total violation of at least 3 constitution rights -
HOUSTON RICK
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I would believe more in your second ammendment if it had not been trampled everyday, for some time now, by almost any polititian and their brother.[/QUOTE
The Second Amendment is under constant siege and often infringed upon, but it is the only reason that we have any firearms at all. that you can believe.
ParadiseRoad
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...last sentence seems to take care of scoped hunting rifles...
...don't see AKs or SKS on the list...
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An armed man(or woman) is a citizen.
An unarmed man(or woman) is a subject.
Both of us here are citizens.
An unarmed man(or woman) is a subject.
Both of us here are citizens.
meaneyedcatz
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I hear you.
A liberal will never ban anything they like, but I’m preaching to the choir now.
The M14 they are referring to may be the semiauto Chinese (Norinco/Polyech) versions. The same ones that were available here until the AWB in 1994 by comrade Bill and the clintonistas.
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I may be incorrect about them during the AWB as I recall them minus bayo lug and non-slotted flash hider. Instead their import ban may have been due to Bill banning imports of arms and ammo from china.
Either way, I recall tales of the M14S still being imported to Canada and at the normal relative cheap prices back then.
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I may be incorrect about them during the AWB as I recall them minus bayo lug and non-slotted flash hider. Instead their import ban may have been due to Bill banning imports of arms and ammo from china.
Either way, I recall tales of the M14S still being imported to Canada and at the normal relative cheap prices back then.
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One that never, or almost never, seems to show up on ban lists is the M1 Garand. And if I wanted to go out and do some real damage like shooting through cars, buildings, etc., that's the one I would choose. Phooey on those little 5.56 pea shooters! Think about it - no large magazine, no pistol grip, no black stock, no muzzle devices or threaded barrel - none of that stuff the antis hate so much. I think everyone oughta have 2-3 Garands set aside for the day they ban all the dangerous black rifles.
wetdog1911
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No, I doubt if it will get much traction, but will eventually get a bunch of people shot, just wait.
If these yahoos thought dressing up like 'operators' and trying to gain entrance into the State house was a good idea, one will eventually come up with the 'really good idea' of popping a round off to emphasize the point. A protest instantly becomes a armed insurrection and responded to.
Their presence there still doesn't make any sense to me. A 2A rally, yes, but to ease the lockdown!? IDK
Rob
Grayfox
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Looking at the list, notice how detailed and specific it is. Somebody has been working on this for some time and just waiting to use it.
Canada is another fine nation that has fallen victim to its own government.
BTW: did anyone ever find out what kind of weapon that their last killer used? I've never heard.
Canada is another fine nation that has fallen victim to its own government.
BTW: did anyone ever find out what kind of weapon that their last killer used? I've never heard.
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...last sentence seems to take care of scoped hunting rifles.......
10,000 joules is about 7,300 ft/lbs. Heavy hitters for sure. Joe
Last Sunday was our first range day in two months. It was the first Sunday our range was open since March. An M28 and a CZ Rami were played with. Then one of our Garands. A CMP RM Special. I had brought two ten clip bandoleers. My Honey can out shoot me most days and loves the smell of M2 ball in that gas piston system. After a few clips off hand each we turned it into a "first to hit the X" contest. No jacket, no glove, just a ton of fun hitting 10s all around the X until we ran out of ammo. What a gun! What fun, it didn't matter that we didn't X. They should still be in production, $4k to what $6k? My LGS has an H&R I think I'll go take a close look at today.......
Yes everyone needs more than one so you can issue them to your family and friends.
While I agree everyone should have a Garand or two, the gun grabbers will always come up with reasons for you to not have any guns for any reason.
No one should think any type of gun will be exempt, including black powder.
The Norseman
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Interesting right?
The Last Standing Knight
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Canada is another country and they do things differently there.
But like every other country, their government only does what their people allow them to do. Most Canadians I have ran across were very anti-gun and often brought up the fact of our "stupid infactuation" with guns as one put it years back.
Fact is, no country on Earth is as free as ours. Some come closer than others but still we stand alone in most respects. If the Canadian people were against such legislation, they would not only be more vocal about it...but would change the status quo. If I remember, their constitution has no RTKBA in it.
Considering what we are going through right now, I see a lot of the blissfully accepting of the government's rule here.
Indifference is everywhere and a government based on democratic principles only does what it gets away with.
But like every other country, their government only does what their people allow them to do. Most Canadians I have ran across were very anti-gun and often brought up the fact of our "stupid infactuation" with guns as one put it years back.
Fact is, no country on Earth is as free as ours. Some come closer than others but still we stand alone in most respects. If the Canadian people were against such legislation, they would not only be more vocal about it...but would change the status quo. If I remember, their constitution has no RTKBA in it.
Considering what we are going through right now, I see a lot of the blissfully accepting of the government's rule here.
Indifference is everywhere and a government based on democratic principles only does what it gets away with.
If they tried to, the crime rate would be the least of their worries.
The list should be in that article. According to a previous article:
According to a document obtained by Radio-Canada, the list includes:
- M16, M4, AR-10 and AR-15 rifles. Those styles were used in the Sandy Hook, New Zealand, Las Vegas and Orlando mass shootings. There are an estimated 83,572 in Canada.
- Ruger Mini-14s, the type of firearm used in the École Polytechnique shooting. There are an estimated 16,859 in Canada.
- Swiss Arms Classic Green carbines. There are an estimated 1,342 in Canada.
- M14 rifles, used in the Moncton shooting. There are an estimated 5,229 in Canada.
- Vz. 58 semi-automatic rifles, used in the Quebec City mosque shooting. There are an estimated 11,593 in Canada.
- CZ Scorpion EVO 3 carbines. There are an estimated 1,813 in Canada.
- Beretta CX4 Storm carbines, the type of firearm used in the Dawson College shooting. There are an estimated 1,513 in Canada.
- Sig Sauer MCX and Sig MPX carbines and pistols. There are an estimated 1,000 in Canada.
- Robinson Arms XCR rifles. There are an estimated 1,834 in Canada.
Quite possibly the Comments have been spiked with paid trolls from the antis, as in most similar cases to date, the pro gun side easily outnumbers the naysayers. Also, it appears that the CBC mods may have deleted a lot of the "most liked" pro comments, which is particularly despicable, esp. given some of the complete hogwash the antis have been spouting.
Trudeau has been yapping about this ever since he was elected, but has done nothing until now- when the worst shooting in Canadian history recently took place in Nova Scotia (by a madman dressed up as an RCMP officer in a restored RCMP cruiser killed 22 people). Actually, he had indicated doing so via an OIC (Order in Council- essentially bypassing democratic debate) a few months ago. But the recent massacre was a golden and reprehensible opportunity to cash in on a nation in mourning, despite that the NS shooter was not licenced and therefore had no legal access to any of his weapons. In other words, the event was irrelevant, except for the all-important political leverage. Since the Ecole Poly. massacre of 14 women in 1990, AFAIK fewer than that number - in 30 years - have been killed with semi-auto rifles, so there was no national emergency to justify an OIC. Trudeau was just sick and tired of debating it and has constantly been under pressure from a couple of incessant lunatic fringe groups to basically ban everything. They will be delilghted at this, as will criminals who won't be affected in the least.
The RCMP have been very cagey about exactly what he had (aside from the S&W 5906 he took from the officer he gunned down), although it appears there was a "military-style-assault rifle" of the type on the banned list. The mag. cap in Canada for semi-auto CF rifles is limited to 5 rounds, but of course that wouldn't apply to what he obtained illegally.
All in all, a despicable act of political procedural abuse without justification. No doubt handguns will be next...
Oh, and to add to the mystery/hypocrisy, Bill Blair, currently Minister of Publlc Safety, in his previous position in charge of Border Securiy, conducted a nation-wide "consultation" about gun issues last year, culminating in a report on Reducing Violent Crime, which stated, on page 2:
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