You can start injecting bleach now...NOT!

[Fishslayer]

Yeah, people opt for out of the mainstream treatments when faced with no other choice. Ask many cancer patients, I know of at least two.

Not sure how out of the mainstream it is but I was in a clinical trial for an immunotherapy. It worked.

 

[ladder13]

Not sure how out of the mainstream it is but I was in a clinical trial for an immunotherapy. It worked.

Yes, worked for Coast Guard Ed, as we call him. All but given up by mainstream docs, told to go home as no more could be done with Stage 4 lung cancer.
He met a now lady friend in a support group who introduced him to a doc doing immunotherapy.
Almost two years later his is cancer free. He's on some expensive meds paid for by the gov't.

 

[Coot47]

This is a timely update. This guy presented information back in March as to how Chloroquine and Zinc may prevent the initial spread of the Covid virus in the early stages of infection. This is my goto guy in attempting to understand this virus. I don't believe there is a political bone in his body. He is also on the front line, treating patients that have been diagnosed with Covid19. It may be worthwhile to refer to his earlier update regarding the Chloroquine / Zinc combo - it's around #34 or so, but you will have to access it on the web site, free of charge. You Tube, in their infinite wisdom, pulled a number of these updates for whatever reason. I've followed this guy from Covid update #1, and have used this info as a baseline for filtering all the other info out there.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZq-K1wpur8[/ame]

 

[Drm50]

Like everything anymore you cant trust anything you hear on Media. It will be taken out of context or cut to advance someone's agenda. If you don't hear it straight from horses mouth, don't put stock in it.

 

[ParadiseRoad]

Great! Now what am I going to do with the 1500 gallons of Clorox I bought?

...save it for Virus 2.0...the sequel...

...right around the corner...

 

[Dave_n]

Having spent 24 years at NIH as a researcher, this is the correct way to test. The first example of how not to was the French trial that was "lauded to the skies" by a number of people (I will not get into politics). When that trial was looked at more thoroughly by scientists and clinicians and not reporters or politicians, the number of errors greatly exceeded the "quoted efficacy". These "errors" included removal of patients who did not respond, and the "control group" consisted of much younger people without any known covid-19 exposure and from a different geographic area. To say that it was extremely shoddy work would be being kind! In fact the journal pulled the article about 10 days later because of the inherent problems, but this was not mentioned by "said politicos". Similarly, the only reports under any form of controlled conditions, showed a slight positive effect in patients with mild cases. When much older patients were involved recent reports (though without a control group) showed significant cardiac problems and no efficacy. Dave_n

 

[ladder13]

...save it for Virus 2.0...the sequel...

...right around the corner...

Coming this fall, then disappearing Jan 21 or so.

 

[steelslaver]

Yeah, people opt for out of the mainstream treatments when faced with no other choice. Ask many cancer patients, I know of at least two.

I will agree with this. When the current medical treatments don't offer much hope and you are looking at a negative outcome, you should be free to try any treatment you chose. I don't get not giving someone in terrible pain, suffering from a terminal condition all the pain meds they want. Its their life.
Knew a guy who had a tumor who tried having his body temp dropped way down a couple times. Didn't work, but, hey it didn't kill him and even if it did he was willing to take the risk.

If the antibody isolated by the lab in California is what they clain it is the virus will become a non issue
California biopharmaceutical company claims coronavirus antibody breakthrough

Your the one that has to die when its time for you to die.

BigWheelZip, Sorry for your loss. Your daughter was not at fault. At a time when there was little hope it was about the only option and she felt she had to recommend it. Sometimes even with great medical advice it doesn't work out.

 

[Golddollar]

Because my mother suffered from ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) and eventually passed from it in 1991, I was heavily involved in attending seminars and conferences dealing with it. ALS is a terminal diagnosis, and back in the 1990s there was only one drug approved as a therapeutic, and it only extended a patient's life for maybe 3 months. At one conference there was a lecture on the drug approval process. The inspiration finally hit me to stand up during the Q & A session and basically say, "If I was diagnosed with ALS, why couldn't I receive a drug before it came to the end of the approval process? I would sign any waiver you wanted. I'm terminal, what have I got to lose?"

The response I got from the presenter was essentially, "I'm sorry. There is nothing we can do." I've carried that with me for years.

I'm happy to hear about successes under the "right-to-try" law.