If limited to 10 rounds, what do you carry?

"The SCOTUS says carry permits are Constitutional and unless or until that changes, states can require them"

Is there a case citation to support that statement?
 
Heller cemented the right to bear arms, but also opined that states can regulate the manner of carry, through permits and other laws . . .

message_board_expert said:
"The SCOTUS says carry permits are Constitutional and unless or until that changes, states can require them"

Is there a case citation to support that statement?
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Living in a restricted state I carry an M&P 40C. I asked myself 10 rounds of 40 SW or 10 rounds of 9? The 40 is my choice. I think even if I was in a free state I would probably go with the 40.
 
rickflst said:
Living in a restricted state I carry an M&P 40C. I asked myself 10 rounds of 40 SW or 10 rounds of 9? The 40 is my choice. I think even if I was in a free state I would probably go with the 40.
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Excellent choice. :) Just as the SR9c was (prior to the P365) my 10+1 optimum choice in 9mm, I consider the M&P40C or its M2.0 successor to be the optimum 10+1 choice in .40. :)

Now, I am talking both moonbat state compliant & limited to 10+1 and modern plastic wonder guns... so any folks who think I am dissing my beloved all-metal 3rd Gens, you are wrong. :p

Disclaimer: My opinions are 90% range-based as it is rare that I carry more than my little pocket mini-mouse guns. :cool:
 
Mr. smitten, you're way over thinking this! most violent confrontations happen at an arms legth or two. The average number of shots fired is three. If you think you need multiple 30+ round mags you need more range time! You're not walking the streets of Ramadi or Fallujah. I have.
 
Living in NY, Upstate, I've never been able to carry more than 10 in my time with a permit. Old full capacity mags are no longer legal either thanks to King Cuomo and his UnsafeAct. We still carry just about anything people in unrestricted states do with the general exception of bigger 9mm. Without a capacity advantage there's no point in carry a midsize or larger 9mm over a 357, 40, 45. So most of us don't, if we carry a 9 its something that only holds 10+1 or less anyway. As far as the people who love to say "The 2nd Amendment is my permit"...just stop it. Try living in a restricted state and then let us know how that works for you. You can't buy a handgun in NY without a permit. And if you are caught with one and you
don't have a NY permit that's a felony and enjoy your upcoming state sponsored vacation.
 
Forte Smitten Wesson said:
Personally, while I love the S&W 3rd Gen pistols, I don't feel that there's anything functionally wrong with the M&P Series, nor do I feel that I'm giving anything up by choosing an M&P over a 3rd Gen.

Honestly, I know some folks don't like modern polymer-framed pistols, and I do feel that the 3rd Gens are both aesthetically as well as structurally superior, but in terms of overall function, the M&P Series is just as good if not better for self-defense.
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No question that the plastic guns work, are lightweight, relatively cheap (prior to the current panic) and no big deal whatsoever if you drop it, damage it, lose it or leave it in your car and it melts (or even doggie chew damage!). :p That is the beauty of plastic for carry. :D

But for collecting, home defense and range fun, I'm 3rd Gen all the way. :) :) :)
 

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Fastbolt said:
Same calibers/guns I've carried for many years. Something in 9, .38SPL, .40 & .45 ... only one of which uses magazines of more than 10rds - (12rd/.40) - and I have several 10rd mags for it.

Even when the federal ban came along, and my state enacted its own magazine capacity restriction, I was buying, using and carrying pistols with single digit mag capacities.

I carried one or another hi-cap duty pistol during my career, but I'd started in the revolver days. Back then I'd carried a Commander, Star PD or some revolver off-duty, and I often continued to carry pistols with single stack magazines even while carrying a hi-cap pistol on-duty.

I don't mind carrying my 7 & 8rd 9's, my 7 & 9rd .40's or my 6-8rd .45's. Matter of fact, I finished my LE career carrying an issued 7+1 compact .45 in my plainclothes assignment, and I didn't feel ill-equipped or "under gunned" at all.

Then again, this is the opinion of someone who often carried, and still carries, 5-shot J-frames on my own time. ;)
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I'm the same way. I started my career with a 4" 686 and two speed-loaders in 1985 and for at least half my career of 29 yrs my duty sidearm was a Colt Govt .45 with four spare 7-rd mags. I never felt under-gunned.

I've been retired for 7 yrs now and anymore my 3" 686+ is my daily carry with one speedloader. My Glock 26 is another favorite.

I do have my Glock 17 and carry it sometimes, but more often than not what I'm carrying is 10 rds or less as it is. I don't feel at a dis-advantage at all.
 
BAM-BAM said:
A concept I could never buy into.... if I'm carrying a gun for "protection" I want the best (for me) gun I can have available. If I should be forced to use it, and I come out on the other end of the encounter; then the cost of loosing it is a small price to pay.

That said .... I have a backup in the safe for every carry gun I actually daily carry................ Sometimes the Backups even have there own Backups.
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I'm the same way, I don't worry about "what ifs". I carry it and enjoy it. My S&W revolvers are tools - a beautifully machined, fine precision tool that I enjoy the quality of on a daily basis. I don't leave it in the safe worrying about "what if". It's a tragic ending for a tool that deserves to be used what it's intended for.
 
double-dipper said:
Mr. smitten, you're way over thinking this! most violent confrontations happen at an arms legth or two. The average number of shots fired is three. If you think you need multiple 30+ round mags you need more range time! You're not walking the streets of Ramadi or Fallujah. I have.
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I'm aware of that, but I just feel better carrying a gun that holds more than three rounds, and I never said that I did need 30+ rounds either, in fact the premise of this entire thread is what folks carry who live in states where magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds what firearm they carry as I myself may end bound by such restrictions and am basically looking at my options.

Honestly, I used to carry a Walther PPK/S (a single stack .380 with a 7rd magazine) without a spare magazine and felt safe doing so. I just started carrying more because I could and because I found a cheap double stack SW40VE while shopping for a new firearm, which I had narrowed down to either a Ruger SR40c (10rds) or an M&P45 Shield (7rds) prior to my chance encounter with the SW40VE, but since I was short on cash I chose the SW40VE instead and took the fact that it could hold 14rds in the magazine as a bonus. I never even set out to find a high capacity firearm in the first place, it just sort of ended up that way.
 
jcs266 said:
I'm the same way, I don't worry about "what ifs". I carry it and enjoy it. My S&W revolvers are tools - a beautifully machined, fine precision tool that I enjoy the quality of on a daily basis. I don't leave it in the safe worrying about "what if". It's a tragic ending for a tool that deserves to be used what it's intended for.
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Ya third gen guns aren't easy to come by these days.... but they are not Registered Magnums worth north of five Grand and are all but irreplaceable.

I was lucky in the disposable cash situation in the 90s and early 21st century..... so I'd take advantage and buy "lightly used/sock drawer" $300 39xx and 69xx series gun when the opportunity presented;... some utility 915s for three bills or less.

I even bought some Performance Center guns for around $500 when the opportunity presented themselves. One Shorty-9 got carried a lot before I found out (here) how few were made.... still carry it from time to time as it's no longer "ANIB" but shows holster wear on the high points and edges...... But still a handsome gun!

Owned a couple of Glock 26s and 19s but never warmed to them........ or shot them as well as my 3rd Gen Smiths.
 
I carried my Colt Officers .45 MKIV for years. Now I rotate between 3 H & K's

HK .45c
HK USPc .40
HK P2sk .40 (mostly my edc)

All 3 have the lem trigger mod in "light lem." Best butter trigger I have ever felt in a pistol.
 
Contradiction or Accommodation?

Is anyone else noticing the seeming inconsistency between the majority "no problem with a reinstated 10-round mag limitation" opinions being voiced here and another thread that's running currently in which 3 out of 4 members stated that they carry at least one spare magazine? :confused: Should that confuse me or not? :confused: Is it a contradiction or an accommodation? :confused:

Yes, I know some said they carry a spare magazine because the magazine in the gun could fail... :rolleyes: ... but I think most are carrying a spare magazine because it offers more total rounds.

Can someone help me to understand. :p
 
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