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I liked his supporting role with Kevin Costner in "The Highwaymen"
I was not impressed with this latest rendition of "Midway". It was more like Star Wars meets WWII.
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I liked his supporting role with Kevin Costner in "The Highwaymen"
I was not impressed with this latest rendition of "Midway". It was more like Star Wars meets WWII.
While I often do not agree with some actors political or ideological leanings it does not mean I can not appreciate their abilities.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and has the right to express it on their own time. If Harrelson started spouting garbage during the middle of a film I paid to view, thats different than what he does on his time.
My boss should not care that I like guns, I should not care that he supports vegetarianism as long as he don't say anything about my roast beef sandwich when I am eating lunch
Charlize Theron hating guns doesn't mean she doesn't look good.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and has the right to express it on their own time. If Harrelson started spouting garbage during the middle of a film I paid to view, thats different than what he does on his time.
My boss should not care that I like guns, I should not care that he supports vegetarianism as long as he don't say anything about my roast beef sandwich when I am eating lunch
Charlize Theron hating guns doesn't mean she doesn't look good.
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The new Midway is a fair movie, probably worth watching once for entertainment only. If you simply can't tolerate a film that is not factual, it's probably best not to see it.
THE PILGRIM
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Woody was good in Zombieland and The Highwaymen.
I’ll watch the new Midway when it hits one of my Streaming Services.
I’ll watch the new Midway when it hits one of my Streaming Services.
The factual ones are called "documentaries . . . "
Absalom
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When I finally saw the new “Midway” not too long ago, my initial comment at the thread’s beginning after viewing the trailer was confirmed.
The 1975 movie was deficient in many ways, great actors but badly written and cheesy in parts, and for a movie as recent as 1975 the technical aspects, special effects and such, were unexcusably clumsy and badly executed.
I found Woody Harrelson’s performance as Nimitz outstanding. The guy can act, and if you look at photos of Nimitz, it becomes clear why the producers went after Harrelson. If you let his off-screen opinions get in the way of appreciating it, that’s your problem.
The CGI was indeed a bit too slick. Those graphics of the combat scenes just kept slipping into video game territory. Planes moved just a tad too smooth, a tad too fast, a tad too precise .... maybe you have to be a pilot to be sensitive to that. If it doesn’t bother you, it’s a good movie.
The 1975 movie was deficient in many ways, great actors but badly written and cheesy in parts, and for a movie as recent as 1975 the technical aspects, special effects and such, were unexcusably clumsy and badly executed.
I found Woody Harrelson’s performance as Nimitz outstanding. The guy can act, and if you look at photos of Nimitz, it becomes clear why the producers went after Harrelson. If you let his off-screen opinions get in the way of appreciating it, that’s your problem.
The CGI was indeed a bit too slick. Those graphics of the combat scenes just kept slipping into video game territory. Planes moved just a tad too smooth, a tad too fast, a tad too precise .... maybe you have to be a pilot to be sensitive to that. If it doesn’t bother you, it’s a good movie.
Watched the film today.
It is entertaining, but very short on historical facts.
I'm OK with CGI....how else can you make a film somewhat realistic today without spending astronomical amounts of money..........but I HATE IT when they "Hollywood-up" the historical characters and events. The "true facts" should be portrayed as they occurred IMO....they were exiting without the made-up story lines.
Again, JMO.
Don
It is entertaining, but very short on historical facts.
I'm OK with CGI....how else can you make a film somewhat realistic today without spending astronomical amounts of money..........but I HATE IT when they "Hollywood-up" the historical characters and events. The "true facts" should be portrayed as they occurred IMO....they were exiting without the made-up story lines.
Again, JMO.
Don
Absalom
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If you want to go against Adm. Cox with your judgment, you’re going to have to come up with a lot more specifics than this
The (real-life) characters were inevitably “fleshed out” a bit Hollywood-style, but the main focus was on the historical events and I could find no major fault with the depiction of the course of the battle.
I think producers and directors in general have had to take into account how easy it is these days for the audience to check up on historical accuracy, and that there will be bloggers and youtube experts dissecting their work as soon as it has been released. The days when John Wayne could make a movie like “The Alamo”, in which pretty much nothing happens as it actually did, are largely over.
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I found the dive bombing attacks to be not very true to life for WWII myself, besides looking like a video game. Like Absalom said, the cgi looked too slick and fluid looking to me also and their attack profiles looked unrealistic to me at times. Especially the last attack on the Hiryu, which showed the "hero" coming in almost horizontally at about 50 feet over the deck from stern to bow and dropping his bomb and blowing the ship up. First of all, ordnance to this day has safeties in the form of spinners that need to rotate a certain number of revolutions to arm the bomb and that bomb wouldn't have had enough time to arm itself. Second of all, there was no such thing as snakeye bombs in WWII with retarders on it, so the bomb would have fallen right under the aircraft and blown him up along with the ship. Another boo boo was the dive bombers being shown dropping way too low, with some being dropped at 1,000 feet or less in a 70-80 degree dive. The aircraft wouldn't have been able to even pull out of the dive with that little distance and would have augured into the sea or ship. And if you notice, the planes getting shot down inevitably lose part of the wing in most instances, which I would think is unrealistic. Them bullets the Japanese use must be partial to wings along with a little side of motors being served. What about the pilot being killed causing the crash or the tail getting shot away? 
As for the actors, I had no problems with any being chosen for the movie, but some of the dialog didn't interest me.
What about the pilot being killed causing the crash or the tail getting shot away? As for the actors, I had no problems with any being chosen for the movie, but some of the dialog didn't interest me.
If you want to go against Adm. Cox with your judgment, you’re going to have to come up with a lot more specifics than this
Seems Adm. Cox's comments were about the combat scenes........that doesn't pertain to the historical aspect of the film. But I guess some folks just like to overlook that stuff or just disagree with others in general.
Don
hoosierone
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Well, the cgi looked just right to these old eyes. I always thought the original to be way too "Hollywood" albeit a few of the Japanese scenes with Yamamoto were well acted.
IMO this was one of the most important battles of WWII.
IMO this was one of the most important battles of WWII.
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sigp220.45
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I didn’t think I’d like it, but I did. I thought the effects were great.
I also like Woody. He was great in this, as he was in Highwaymen, Three Billboards, and season one of True Detective. I don’t care what his politics are.
Woody, on the other hand, isn’t a big fan of my former employer. His Dad, Charles Harrelson, was a contract killer who went away forever following his murder of federal judge “Maximum John” Wood. Charles was hired by some drug dealers who thought they might get a better sentence from another judge - maybe “Lenient Larry” or “Boys Will Be Boys Stanley”. Woody saw the FBI drag Daddy Charles away, and hasn’t been enamored of the Bureau ever since.
I also like Woody. He was great in this, as he was in Highwaymen, Three Billboards, and season one of True Detective. I don’t care what his politics are.
Woody, on the other hand, isn’t a big fan of my former employer. His Dad, Charles Harrelson, was a contract killer who went away forever following his murder of federal judge “Maximum John” Wood. Charles was hired by some drug dealers who thought they might get a better sentence from another judge - maybe “Lenient Larry” or “Boys Will Be Boys Stanley”. Woody saw the FBI drag Daddy Charles away, and hasn’t been enamored of the Bureau ever since.
OP
The stuff I learn from this forum! Never knew that about Woody’s background, but then again, I never cared much about his background either.
I finally saw this flick last night, free on my Roku.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
But, I'm comparing it to all the junk that's on TV nowadays.
Still, I'm now learning about Dick Best and the battle itself. Fascinating indeed.
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I thoroughly enjoyed it.
But, I'm comparing it to all the junk that's on TV nowadays.
Still, I'm now learning about Dick Best and the battle itself. Fascinating indeed.
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Frank46
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As bad as "DUNKIRK" was I sincerely hope this one is better. Didn't they have another "MIDWAY" movie out within the last couple years??. And when is Greywolf coming out. Frank
UncleEd
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When I see a movie, the first
motivation is to be entertained.
That's why movies come from
what is known as the entertainment
industry.
When I want facts, no hype, just
the facts, I read postings in
gun forums.
motivation is to be entertained.
That's why movies come from
what is known as the entertainment
industry.
When I want facts, no hype, just
the facts, I read postings in
gun forums.
Whatever happened to “Come Hell or High Water”, the movie that was to be made about the Battle off Samar? It is supposed to be centered around Capt. Ernest E. Evans, skipper of the USS Johnston (DD-557), who charged right into the advancing Japanese ships, guns a blazing. He was awarded a posthumous MOH for his actions to protect the Jeep Carriers of Taffy 3. If you’ve never read “Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors, I highly recommend it.
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Most likely cause a storm but True history is better than made up history. hollywood just cant figure that out, have to pay some ignorant, ill informed person to “ make up” movies. I double dare anyone to find any move better than 99% of WWII books written by combat Veterans. Find “Company Commander” and “ A Time for Trumpets” by Charles MacDonnald for starters. nuf sed
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