Smith & Wesson Moving HQ to Tennessee

According to a Smith & Wesson spokesman, 550 of the affected jobs are at the Springfield facility, while 150 are in Connecticut and 50 are in Missouri.

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Area around Knoxville is nice but good luck finding a decent home to buy.

I am just north of Knoxville. Plenty of decent homes. Especially north of Knoxville were I live. Worked in Knoxville for 5 years easy commute.

Tennessee gun friendly, no state income tax & low property taxes.
Great hunting & fishing. Winters do not drag on & on.
Majority of people are friendly ,honest & will go out of their way to help you.
 
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Only surprised that it took this long.

Ruger pulled out of CT a long time ago. The factory on Lacey Place is pretty much an empty building with a small office staff.

Kahr/Auto Ordnance pulled out of West Hurley NY and moved their HQ to Greeley PA. Manufacturing is still in Worcester MA, but this may accelerate the move to Greeley.
They bought the entire Pike County industrial park, they have plenty of room to grow.

PA is the anomly of NE States. We are gun friendly. Edit- New Hampshire is gun friendly, since Ruger and SIG have facilities there, and Maine with S&W at Houlton.

But we are surrounded by NY, NJ, and MD, which are decidedly anti-gun.
 
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Something I need to emphasize to anyone wanting to move here. We love our state and love the lifestyle. We don’t appreciate anyone trying to tell us how to live our lives. We’ve done pretty well for a couple centuries without anyone telling us how it aught to be done. We especially hate when someone says this is how we did it in ____ ____. Tennessee seems to be doing things right. Tennessee has no income tax and we have a balanced budget, excellent roads, free 2 years of community college for qualified students, free 4 years of college or State University including for a BS, BA for seniors and were the only state with a 100% funded state pension program. We’re a constitutional carry state and about as 2A friendly as it gets.

I live in Lenoir City in Loudon County. It’s a picture book little town of about 9000. The county is around 49,000. Parents around me are always out playing with their children. When they’re not the kids are out playing ball in the street, riding their bikes and doing the things my friends did 65 years ago. It’s a major family oriented community and a community of strong faith. We have crime, mostly drug and theft but we don’t have a lot. And something you don’t see many places, people will come to the rescue of people in need. Neighbors look out for neighbors and lend a helping hand.

The hardware store here is 100 years old and in the original building downtown. Some of the employs have been there over 40 years and the know you by your first name. This is the way a community should be.

It’s a little paradise here and we’re not interested in changing. Matter of fact if you think you have a better way then you’re not going to be very happy here. You may even be invited to leave. We love things exactly the way they are.
 
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Does this mean the end of manufacturing s&w guns in mass.?
Will the new s&w guns say made in Tennessee? Will the value on older guns made in mass. Climb price wise?
 
can’t bash anyone for living where we do.

We stayed here in the northeast because family was here since 1890’s.
 
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You want my $.02?

Great, you're getting it anyway.

I wonder why excellent companies with excellent traditions dating back like forever, stick around in states that have obviously become hostile towards them...hasn't been a slow process either you folks.

Should have seen that long ago, well better late than never.

Happy For You,

Best Wishes S&W!
 
I'm glad. I live in New York State. I have emotional ties to NY and to Massachusetts (both me and my son went to college in Boston) but I'll be the first to admit it sucks to be a gun owner here. I'll probably never leave, because my roots and ties are so strong, but I admire those who retire and head to friendlier places. If I had half a brain I would.
 
Bashing those from other states seems to be a group sport here.

Interesting.

Live somewhere for 60 years, call it home and love everything about it. Then have several hundred thousand people from big cities and blue states move in with different social and political views. Watch the fields you used to hunt get covered up with houses sitting within 8 feet of each other, two lane roads get turned into 4 lane main traffic arteries, the foothills you used to hunt get covered with high end home, all the places you camped in relative isolation turned into weekend party spots and your cross town commute go from 15 minutes to an hour.
Then tell me what your attitude about people who move in from other states is.
I do not fault them for moving to improve the quality of their lives, but I do resent the degradation of my quality of life that they cause.
 
It’s a little paradise here and we’re not interested in changing. Matter of fact if you think you have a better way then you’re not going to be very happy here. You may even be invited to leave. We love things exactly the way they are.

It was the same way here in Mass. until it wasn't. Where I live was the industrial center of the world for several generations. There were huge industrial complexes where just about everything from shoes to textiles to guns were made. Most of the population was immigrants who came here to work and have a better life. They came from all over the globe. I'm talking about legal immigrants who were sponsored and went though the process to become citizens. They worked, paid taxes, went to church, did the right thing. Fast forward a couple of generations. The businesses moved over seas to take advantage of low labor costs and less regulation. The residents moved to other areas of the country to find work. They left behind abandoned neighborhoods and depressed cites. The population that followed didn't have the same work ethic and got trapped by government hand outs. They filled in the vacant residents and most don't care about how their lawn looks. Now it's a wasteland here. You have the ultra rich who own multi million dollar houses on Cape Cod and don't have to care about much of anything and you have the new slaves who take the handouts and don't have to care about much of anything. The working class, who pays for all of this, continues to shrink. They are moving to places like Tenn. The point is, everything changes. Enjoy that sense of community you have now because no matter how hard you fight against it, our past is your prologue. What you have will not last forever.
 
Massachusetts is not called Taxachusetts for nothing. For such a small state, the taxing authorities have a California size appetite for litigation and frankly shakedowns ("yes you may have rights, but they will cost you") and a lot of the same tax laws as the Golden State. The Tennessee Department of Revenue are not pushovers but are a lot easier to deal with and more importantly for businesses, easier to predict.
 
Something I need to emphasize to anyone wanting to move here. We love our state and love the lifestyle. We don’t appreciate anyone trying to tell us how to live our lives. We’ve done pretty well for a couple centuries without anyone telling us how it aught to be done. We especially hate when someone says this is how we did it in ____ ____. Tennessee seems to be doing things right. Tennessee has no income tax and we have a balanced budget, excellent roads, free 2 years of community college for qualified students, free 4 years of college or State University including for a BS, BA for seniors and were the only state with a 100% funded state pension program. We’re a constitutional carry state and about as 2A friendly as it gets.

I live in Lenoir City in Loudon County. It’s a picture book little town of about 9000. The county is around 49,000. Parents around me are always out playing with their children. When they’re not the kids are out playing ball in the street, riding their bikes and doing the things my friends did 65 years ago. It’s a major family oriented community and a community of strong faith. We have crime, mostly drug and theft but we don’t have a lot. And something you don’t see many places, people will come to the rescue of people in need. Neighbors look out for neighbors and lend a helping hand.

The hardware store here is 100 years old and in the original building downtown. Some of the employs have been there over 40 years and the know you by your first name. This is the way a community should be.

It’s a little paradise here and we’re not interested in changing. Matter of fact if you think you have a better way then you’re not going to be very happy here. You may even be invited to leave. We love things exactly the way they are.


Wonderful post here.

The southern Appalachian region has changed tremendously even in just the last 20-30 years, in some ways positively and in some ways negatively. In my lifetime I've seen areas there go from yard birds and outhouses to mini mansions owned by people who live full time in Atlanta.

The economics have certainly improved, but some of the culture and flavor of the areas has been lost--of course that's inevitable.

I hope this works out for S&W and that the economic boost to the area is substantial. I also hope this can be done without changing what's so attractive about the place to begin with.
 
There actually is one advantage to being ranked the 49th or 50th state in various polls . . . we don't have as many New England and California liberals moving in and telling us how stupid they think we are.
 
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