We can't use one conveniently yet here in mountain New Mexico.
I be waiting to see how this california thing with the electrishikal cars works out
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John, I think that has gotta be a hybrid. Probably an early Prius.
I think Toyota's first mass produced all electric vehicle debuted this year, 2022. The Prius, in Japan since 1997 and in the US since 2001, per Wikipedia, is an excellent (if singularly unexciting) car. I have a 2012 in Japan that has never given me any trouble whatsoever. If all you want is reliable and inexpensive transportation, they're great.
Toyota has the hybrid engine figured out, for sure.
Squarebutt
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Here in MA we are also mandated to go 100% electric vehicles by 2035. For all the efficiency the all-electric vehicles offer, they need to pull power from some other source. The same folks who are legislating this are also blocking any new power plants or natural gas pipeline extensions. Our power grid is ancient, and snowstorms often knock out electric lines to large areas for a week or more. We're seeing thousands of acres of beautiful farmland getting covered with ugly glass panels that will need to be scrapped someday. I'm all in favor of hybrids like the original Prius that generate their own juice as they travel along, but it seems that mandating a total changeover to 100% plug-in cars and trucks is going to be massively expensive and inefficient fiasco.
Arlo—I am sure you are 100% correct. I am woefully ignorant of the market and the various models/terminology. The only ones I know anything about are TESLA and that is just passing, superficial knowledge. I had never ridden in one until the trip mentioned above.
Ironically I do have an EV charging dock in my garage. The folks that I bought the house from are very progressive and proponents of all things new and hip. I would bet the wife had one of the first EV's in town.
Anyway, I have a Mustang Shelby GT500 sitting in the garage bay with the EV charger!
Ironically I do have an EV charging dock in my garage. The folks that I bought the house from are very progressive and proponents of all things new and hip. I would bet the wife had one of the first EV's in town.
Anyway, I have a Mustang Shelby GT500 sitting in the garage bay with the EV charger!
at the rate people are fleeing California, it won't be a problem. Ryder and u-Haul are paying employees to drive empty trucks back to California and fly them home because everyone is leaving CA, and far fewer are moving their, thus neverending rental truck shortages.
John, you too can be hip: I will trade you straight up my extremely cool 2012 Prius for your tired old Shelby, regardless of year...
otis24
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Barring some miraculous innovation in battery or charging technology, I don't think all electric will ever be feasible. It will take a combination of technologies to make us less dependent on fossil fuels.
Lee in Quartzsite
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Where I live in Kingman, AZ, 50 miles East of California, we see that everyday. There has been a housing boom going on for the past 5-6 years with Californians snapping up house as fast as there are built. Cars with CA plates all over town, traffic has become a mess, and the checkout lines in the stores like never before, not to mention the strain it's putting on our city services.
It's not only happening here, but throughout Arizona. Just hoping they left their political ignorances at the border!!
They haven't. They have been screwing up central Puget Sound, Western Washington, since the 90s. They can't wait to get out of California, then they want to make over their new communities to be just like Western California. It's just messed up on many levels.
Easy fix for the Bolt. Just convert it to the corded version.
And how many of us are going to live long enough to see it?
Until these cars reach a range rating of at least 500 miles, which means they might actually make 300 miles in the mountains with the heater on in the winter, they will be utterly impractical for places like Wyoming. Distances are great, weather is often terrible, if you go west in the southern half of the state you are bucking 60 mph headwinds, in the north you are climbing mountains, and chargers are almost non existent. I know a few people who have them but they can't leave town 'cause there's no where to go that's within range. I have a Ram diesel truck that's advertised at 1000 miles of range and will actually get close to 900, and sometimes I feel like even that isn't enough around here! It's kind of entertaining to watch what goes on with EV's on the coasts but it's really just academic as far as we're concerned. Gonna be a very long time before they're really usable here.
I know of working poor around here who can get by with a $3K used car with an ICE. How are they going to afford to buy a used EV and then pay $10-15K for a new battery pack when it fails?
They need to figure out where all the electricity is going to come from to power all the EV's they plan on putting on the roads. Solar panels and wind mills aren't going to do it, so they need to get new power plants into the planning stages yesterday if they want power in 13 years.
Kalif now passed a bill outlawing small gasoline motors. Chain saws, lawn mowers, leaf blowers, etc. I wonder how we will cut our firewood? Among other things.
bigwheelzip
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Electric motor vehicles are bringing good investments to our area. Proterra builds battery powered buses here, and Bosch announced today that they are expanding their plant here to produce fuel cells for electric class 8 trucks, creating at least 350 jobs.
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