To quote David Byrne: "same as it ever was."
HOW THE NEWER GENERATION THINKS
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Between the high divorce rate and the high rate of illegitimacy fatherlessness has become the norm.
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I realize it's a parody but a lot of truth, just the same.
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Have you seen junior's grades?
A former Scoutmaster friend of mine had about ten boys from his troop in a robotics contest where the device they built had to complete a task within a time limit, the winner being the robot that accurately completed the most tasks in the time limit.
Well, they finished building the thing and when they turned on the remote control and moved the joysticks, nothing happened.
All of them immediately went to their phones, thumbs flying and all came to the conclusion; it was hopeless, they could not find an answer to their problem, so no contest.
My friend said "Aren't you going to trouble shoot it?" and got blank looks from all of them.
Long story short, he had them take off covers and they found a loose ground wire.
I've seen that attitude often, too often, in the past 20 years from the younger set, even degreed engineers.
They seem to think "I pushed the buttons, I've done my job and now the magic will happen."
There are exceptions of course, but in too many cases, modern tools with electronics have become crutches and barriers to real learning and comprehension.
My son was part of a robotics team from junior high on through high school. These kids, now young adults, could figure out unique ways of accomplishing the robot's assigned tasks, build it with off the shelf parts and fabricate their own parts when what they needed did not exist in the parts bin. These boys and girls were the opposite of what you describe. If something went wrong (and it often did) they would tear it apart, rebuild it on the spot, and most of the time get it working before their next heat.
This competition, called First Robotics Challenge, is a tremendous way for kids to learn teamwork, problem solving, and creative thinking. I would highly recommend it for any kid who thinks they might be interested in engineering, programming, or mechanics.
Led properly by the right adults, the program helps build tomorrow's leaders in these fields.
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Since this is an "open forum" I am going to do some open foruming.
Have any of you wondered why we rarely get or can't keep young members or why Boomer is now used by young folks as a derogatory term towards us?
Read this thread and the many like it in the archives.
Have any of you wondered why we rarely get or can't keep young members or why Boomer is now used by young folks as a derogatory term towards us?
Read this thread and the many like it in the archives.
Ivan the Butcher
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To quote Pogo: "We have met the enemy, and he is us!" I think we have become Prophets of self-fulfillment.
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I've shared some of this before. I am an "older" father. My only child, our son, came along when I was 50 and my wife was 49. Obviously he is adopted and we couldn't be prouder of him or love him one iota more than we do. He is 16 years old and fully engaged in every aspect of life: school, church, family, friends, sports, fishing, hunting & shooting. Miss anything?
I lament from time to time that I cannot provide the same childhood for him that I enjoyed and loved - just not possible in the here and now. Then reality strikes as virtually nothing about my "idyllic" childhood could possibly prepare my son for his future. It's a vastly different world than it was when I was a child.
He's doing just fine; even the parts I don't always understand. He makes good decisions as do most all of his friends. Perhaps the most important quality he's developing is questioning what he hears and sees and accepting very little of what society thrusts at him as the absolute truth. His judgement is developing nicely, he questions things, and that's very comforting.
Geography may introduce variation but I'd be more concerned about teenagers today but for knowing one pretty well.
I lament from time to time that I cannot provide the same childhood for him that I enjoyed and loved - just not possible in the here and now. Then reality strikes as virtually nothing about my "idyllic" childhood could possibly prepare my son for his future. It's a vastly different world than it was when I was a child.
He's doing just fine; even the parts I don't always understand. He makes good decisions as do most all of his friends. Perhaps the most important quality he's developing is questioning what he hears and sees and accepting very little of what society thrusts at him as the absolute truth. His judgement is developing nicely, he questions things, and that's very comforting.
Geography may introduce variation but I'd be more concerned about teenagers today but for knowing one pretty well.
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Well, I'm really Proud of my 4 Grandkids, oldest is 25. He made E-5 in the Navy in less than 4 years, in I.T.. Next in line is oldest Granddaughter, just graduated with 4 degrees. Others still in school/ college and have A-B averages. nuf sed.
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In 1914 when WWI started George Bernard Shaw (B. 1856) said the draft should start at about age 55. He said the old men start the wars, they should have to fight them.
In my youth I met plenty of "senior citizens" who were bad tempered, self-centered, inconsiderate, immature, now that I (72) am one-I still meet them.
In my mixed age apartment complex I have set myself up as the Bike Man. The kiddies, the parents, know, they have a bike problem, come to me. And I show them how to do it.
In my youth I met plenty of "senior citizens" who were bad tempered, self-centered, inconsiderate, immature, now that I (72) am one-I still meet them.
In my mixed age apartment complex I have set myself up as the Bike Man. The kiddies, the parents, know, they have a bike problem, come to me. And I show them how to do it.
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smoothshooter
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I am not so sure the newer generation will be just fine.
Actually, I think they will drag the rest of society down with poor work ethics and in the way they vote.
Most are madly in love with socialism and Marxism/Progressivism because both hold the promise of making most of life's difficult choices for them, and lots more leisure time. They are more than happy to live on someone else's dime, and will gladly trade what liberty we have left for an easier, if somewhat impoverished life.
There are lots of exceptions, of course, but they are rapidly becoming the minority.
Military and law-enforcement recruiters say they figure only about 8% of the 25 and under group is of any use to them at all.
In spite of all the complaints over the years of how the newer generations are never as good as those that came before, THAT is a first for America.
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Worth repeating.
I know a 32 year old kid that sold his Marketing company because he was tired of babysitting the 45, 55, and 65 year old toddlers both male and female.
Not much dentistry to get them to stay on track with their work but their personal/family lives were energy draining and ruining his fun days at the office.
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prairieviper
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I have no idea how many "young" members there are on this forum (do you?) or how you define "young", for that matter. I suspect there would be a quite opinions about that. I would also suggest that even if the forum has a greater ratio of say, members over 40, the reasons for that would be many, least of all due to anyone being made to feel unwelcome because of their age.
Lastly, maybe it is just a different world here in cornfields and cows country where I live, but I have never heard or heard of boomer, as refers to the baby boomer generation, being used by "young folks" or anybody else, in a derogatory way.
Kids always call me a Boomer.
It's a 460 thing.
It's a 460 thing.
Most members here (including myself) fall into the "need to be carbon dated" category. In my time here bashing young folks has become a recognized sport.
Spend some time on social media and sites with comment sections and you will quickly find out how Boomers are viewed. The reason is the disdain shown to younger gens under the veil of anonymity.
I will never understand the frequent blanket disparagement of younger generations here. That just drives the wedge deeper.
Kindness begets kindness.
Spend some time on social media and sites with comment sections and you will quickly find out how Boomers are viewed. The reason is the disdain shown to younger gens under the veil of anonymity.
I will never understand the frequent blanket disparagement of younger generations here. That just drives the wedge deeper.
Kindness begets kindness.
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I think OUR generation created many of the problems. The baby boomers flourished in post war America and gave their kids everything they didn't haven when they grew up. Since the economy was booming they could more than afford it. That set the stage for the rest of the reasons - but since I can't talk politics here, you can fill in the rest.
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