Protocall_Design
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If I had a 25 mile commute in California, I'd get a motorcycle.
That might be a suicide mission on the freeway.
Electric vehicles...
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That might be a suicide mission on the freeway.
Alton
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I love the youtube video of the ford lightning that only went 85 miles towing a 6,000 lb trailer, before having to recharge after being 100% charged. It cost $28 to get it to a 80% charge level.
There is a real place for E/C's, but not for everyone. How about the one car owner, that is used as a daily driver and does not have any private overnight charging options? As a second City "round around car" I love the conception, but not not as a daily driver. Just don't see how will work.
I do believe that by the time E/C's will be the forced on all of us I'll be dead or so zoned out I'll have no idea of what I may or not be driving
And, that may not be such a bad thing, either way.
I do believe that by the time E/C's will be the forced on all of us I'll be dead or so zoned out I'll have no idea of what I may or not be driving
And, that may not be such a bad thing, either way.LG, the giant appliance conglomerate, just bought a huge parcel of land near me to build a plant to manufacture cylindrical EV batteries. I envision a giant AA.
It'll be really interesting to see what happens when they ban the sale of internal combustion cars before there are enough charging stations to make mass EV ownership viable, given the government's record with respect to infrastructure development in the last forty years or so. One only need look at California's bullet train project to see how this will go. The original budget was $33 billion with a completion date of 2020. Budget has grown to four times that. And at the current "accelerated" spending rate of $1.8 million PER DAY, the project can't be finished in this century. Quite likely a number of charging facilities will be held up due to risks to endangered rodents or insects. The days of building the Hoover Dam or the Beartooth Highway, each of which were completed in five years using 1930s technology, are long gone.
LVSteve
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One thing I see in this thread is a refusal to admit that most pickups are owned by people who will never tow or go off road. The Ford Lightning is absolutely aimed at those people. Do you get it now?
Currently they use a pickup around town when any sensible person would use a Honda Civic or Accord. But, they have to have a pickup "just in case", riding around at 17 mpg with gas at nearly $5/gallon (at least out here). Just leaves me shaking my head. Those people are all over getting them a Lightning like white on rice. Ford are sold out already
Currently they use a pickup around town when any sensible person would use a Honda Civic or Accord. But, they have to have a pickup "just in case", riding around at 17 mpg with gas at nearly $5/gallon (at least out here). Just leaves me shaking my head. Those people are all over getting them a Lightning like white on rice. Ford are sold out already
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I like the idea of electric vehicles, but for those of us who like to take road trips they are not practical - yet. When they finally come up with batteries that will charge about as quickly as refilling a gas tank with near equal range and charging stations as ubiquitous as gas stations are now they will be ready for prime time. It will happen, but I'm not sure I'll live to see it.
A hybrid? Yeah, I could live with that.
A hybrid? Yeah, I could live with that.
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Geronimo Jim
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Folks, it is all a giant scam.
Will I have to line up at the Government car criusher and turn in the Batmobiles?
smoothshooter
Member
What if the power goes off for hours or days?
smoothshooter
Member
But what I buy should be my choice.
I can make that decision on my own.
Those people who don’t like gas pickups tend to be the same people who don’t like AR-15’s.
I have some younger Progressive in-laws that think everybody should be driving little “ kiddie cars “, but when they move to another apartment or house they are not shy about asking me and my F-150 Crew Cab 4WD to help them out.
That’s about to come to an end, however . . . . .
I could care less what people own, their money, their choice. ‘Murica
You will get my Shelby Cobra when you pry my cold dead hands from the steering wheel.
It never has. They've lived there since 2003. If they suddenly couldn't charge, they'd use their hybrid.
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Alpo
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I don't have a dog in this hunt, but if the power goes off for hours or days, the pumps at the gas station don't work either.
LVSteve
Member
It still is. Has Ford said it is stopping the sale of gas/diesel trucks? I keep a close watch on the motoring media, and I've yet to see that announcement from anybody. Yes, a couple of luxury makes are planning to go all electric, but it's not tomorrow or the day after.
This will all find its own level. When the real cost of bringing high speed chargers to all corners of America is properly calculated, there will be that "Ah! Maybe not so much" moment. It has already happened for that other thing that supposedly is a right according to the UN, high-speed Internet. It's not happening everywhere, nor will electric cars.
LoboGunLeather
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Following the most recent hurricane there are dozens of reports of electric vehicles erupting into flames caused by short-circuiting via salt water. Ten thousand gallons of water to put the fire out, fire crew goes back to the station, and a couple hours later the fire erupts again.
Even before the weather catastrophe we saw reports of EVs in parking lots spontaneously combusting, usually taking out a few other vehicles parked nearby.
Insurance companies now looking at limitations on homeowners insurance policies for customers with EVs and charging stations inside garages due to the inherent fire dangers with the batteries. Apparently "lithium ion" can also be interpreted as "spontaneous combustion", and charging mode can be deadly to anyone nearby.
Last year a casual friend's daughter purchased a used EV, about $16,000. Within a few months the batteries died, dealers quoted nearly $15,000 to replace the batteries, another $10,000 to dispose of the old batteries.
The technology is coming, but it is not fully developed yet. Even when it is ready for the mass market the only thing accomplished will be to transfer the point of pollution from the user's tailpipe to the electric generation station several miles away.
Smoke and mirrors. Mostly smoke right now, according to Florida EV owners.
Even before the weather catastrophe we saw reports of EVs in parking lots spontaneously combusting, usually taking out a few other vehicles parked nearby.
Insurance companies now looking at limitations on homeowners insurance policies for customers with EVs and charging stations inside garages due to the inherent fire dangers with the batteries. Apparently "lithium ion" can also be interpreted as "spontaneous combustion", and charging mode can be deadly to anyone nearby.
Last year a casual friend's daughter purchased a used EV, about $16,000. Within a few months the batteries died, dealers quoted nearly $15,000 to replace the batteries, another $10,000 to dispose of the old batteries.
The technology is coming, but it is not fully developed yet. Even when it is ready for the mass market the only thing accomplished will be to transfer the point of pollution from the user's tailpipe to the electric generation station several miles away.
Smoke and mirrors. Mostly smoke right now, according to Florida EV owners.
The chair don't count.
