Would you trust this P365?

I don't rely upon internet videos to make decisions about firearms. The vast majority of Glock owners (and Sig) are very satisfied with their guns. If you Google broken Glocks, you will find a multitude of videos that show many broken and malfunctioning ones. No product manufactured has had all of its production have zero defects or never has had one of its products had a broken part if it is used.
 
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I got a flat tire on my Toyota Camry....should I trust it after the flat has been repaired or just sell it for one that has never had a flat?

Hmmm....

Randy

PS. Yes, I am being sarcastic..
 
I trust mine everyday. Just because something breaks, or has an issue, doesn't mean it can't be trusted again once it's fixed. Two months after I bought my Super Blackhawk, the trigger broke. Ruger sent a replacement and I installed it. 36 years and untold thousands of rounds later, it's still going and I still trust it.
When the starter goes out on your car, do you buy another car because you can't trust it?
 
Y'all better never buy any new gun :eek: since all can fail, and lots have, including revolvers.

Yes, including the P226 that I mentioned before.

Just imagine what would have happened to me fighting off hordes of zombies. :eek: :)
 
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rimfireshooter said:
I was hoping for some words of advice. I have been shooting recreationally for about 20 years but obtained a CCW permit more recently. A few months ago, I purchased a new Sig P365; after renting several guns, it was the one I thought I liked best. I have fired about 250 rounds though it. Today, I was firing it and the trigger went "dead" and it would no longer work. I am going to call Sig on Monday. When I search online, I see that I am not the first to have this issue; however, I know that the P365 is a very popular model and many are satisfied with it. Assuming they can fix this gun, would you still trust it for carry? Would you trust P365 at all? Thanks a lot.
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you have received excellent answers from the S&W community but I suggest you post your question on a Sig forum.
 
I would want to know exactly why the trigger failed and how it was fixed. When your car needs a tow, don't you want a clear explanation of what went wrong and how it was fixed?

Given that repetitive movements can cause part failure, find out why these P365 triggers have failed - and what Sig has done to modify future triggers to fix these bugs.
 
I would need to know what the real problem was and what the fix was. I have a S&W 986 which had a broken firing pin spring giving intermittent light strikes The pin and spring was replaced and yes, I trust it now. However I still like the pin on the hammer like on the 27/28 better than the floating pins. FYI I also had the similar problem on a Colt Python years back.
 
rimfireshooter said:
I was hoping for some words of advice. I have been shooting recreationally for about 20 years but obtained a CCW permit more recently. A few months ago, I purchased a new Sig P365; after renting several guns, it was the one I thought I liked best. I have fired about 250 rounds though it. Today, I was firing it and the trigger went "dead" and it would no longer work. I am going to call Sig on Monday. When I search online, I see that I am not the first to have this issue; however, I know that the P365 is a very popular model and many are satisfied with it. Assuming they can fix this gun, would you still trust it for carry? Would you trust P365 at all? Thanks a lot.
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I'd call that a deal-breaker for all-time.
Why not carry an M&P? Plenty of options there.
Glock? There's a lot to be said for 100% reliability!

I like Sig, but they've lost their dayum minds with this modular trigger groups BS that has inherent problems that crop up just about when YOU the end-user needs the dayum thing to WORK!

What I've NEVER had is a Colt Defender trigger "go dead".
Never had a Glock 43, 19, 17, 26 trigger go dead.
NEVER had a generic 1911 trigger "go dead!"

An ounce here, a sliver of thickness there, the SIG 365 looks all good until it doesn't, and yours isn't the first post on this issue.

Vote with your $$$.
 
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Being a retired Ford mechanical engineer, it's critically important to understand the true root cause of the failure. If Sig or anyone else can't tell you WHY it's failing, recurrence is going to happen. You can't "just chase the snake away, you have to kill it." So, what's the problem description and what measures were taken to remedy it…..and how was the effectiveness of the fix verified? Putting a new part in that's like the old one does not equal confidence.
 
I bought a Kahr .40 when they first came out . On the first round of the fifth magazine the trigger failed. I sent it back to Kahr and they repaired it and sent it back to my dealer. They gave an explanation as to why the malfunction occurred which I understood at the time to be a built in defect that they were aware of and were upgrading on a as needed basis. I was not comfortable with that and was never comfortable carrying that gun for what it was bought for which was to protect my hind end so I got rid of it. Might have been a perfectly fine and dependable gun with the upgrade but my trust in it and Kahr was gone. Never owned another one and wont.

The trigger gave a snap when pulled and reset and snapped when pulled again as best as I can remember. Firing pin was not broken but was not functioning at all.
 
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The P365X has a different trigger mechanism from the P365. Don't know if this is to correct a potential flaw or not. Just a different trigger.
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365X uses a straight trigger, 365 continues with a curved trigger.
My 365 has been utterly reliable, digests anything and everything.
The initial batch of 365's did have a problem with firing pins breaking if overly dry snapped, so a more robust firing pin was used starting in 2018. And the 365 likes to run with those rails greased.
Send your pistol in, Sig will make it right.
 
I just want to clarify the universe of defects. There are essentially two types of defects. The first is defined as a Common Cause. Translated it refers to a defect that is inadvertently designed into the product. It could be a dimensional, material, manufacturing process, etc., that is shown on the detail drawings. Most manufacturers have a tough time admitting to common cause defects.

The second kind of defect is called Special Cause. Examples are parts purchased from suppliers that are out of specification like Springs with improper heat treat, castings with porosity, etc. Manufacturers love to blame their product defects on somebody else. They can sue them for the cost of recalls and production delays. Lose of reputation…..not so much.

There's a whole process called design verification (DV) that should be very strict and disciplined. Usually short cuts are taken because marketing is pushing production and release timing. What happens is the science experiment ends up on the customers back. I recall way to many internal fights over three variables: low cost, fast timing, and high quality. My response was "pick any two. You can't schedule invention and you can't compress time." Forgive my long sermon. Tom H.
 
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