Here in PA, the 9mm Luger would be a legal cartridge for deer but good luck finding a legal handgun to shoot it out of as semiautomatic handguns still aren't legal for deer. I've never heard an explanation for that situation.
9mm for deer ?????
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Puller
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I've never heard of Keith Warren before this thread so I did a search on YouTube. Seems he takes a lot of game with handguns, and quite a few with Glocks. After watching several of his videos I'd say he is quite proficient with taking deer with handguns at ranges the vast majority of us on this thread would not be competent enough to do.
In A pen.....
A 147 gr bullet of of a small 9mm case.......HI presuure surely......Probably can see it in flight. due too low velocity.......DON'T EVER....Believe the velocity on the box......Get yourself a cronograph for REAL world velocities. I use an OEHLER 35P.
Not extremely relevant but one of my former coworkers took a shot at a deer near his out building as it was in season and the opportunity presented itself. He had his duty gun, a Glock 21 loaded hith Hydroshocks. Well he took out 2 deer. DRT! The one he shot at and the one behind it. The range was 25 to 40 yards. It was in W.V. I've been to his property but I'm just guessing at the range. No not 9mm and no not 90 yards. But a lumbering handgun round out of a 4.6" barrel. No I wouldn't try a 90 yard shot on deer with a 9mm handgun but if you're good enough to place it at that range it would probably work. I knew a park ranger that routinely took out feral hogs with a .22 magnum, and at some pretty good ranges. Admittedly he was a very good shot and the scoped rifle was accurate. But it was probably just a Marlin. He assinated many a hog with that .22 mag.
Several 9mm cartridges will work. 35 Remington, 35 Whelan and 9x57 Mauser.
9x19 isn't among those suitable for deer. Even the extra small deer they grow in TX.
Nothing against TX. Just shouldn't be legal.
9x19 isn't among those suitable for deer. Even the extra small deer they grow in TX.
Nothing against TX. Just shouldn't be legal.
smoothshooter
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I had to quit watching almost all the hunting shows years ago.
The " excessive jubilation " high fives and jumping around after killing a deer or elk at long range turned my stomach.
You would think they had won a 100 million dollar lottery.
No showing of respect at all for the animal whose life they just took.
I am NOT an anti-hunter, BTW. Have downed quite a few critters myself over my 68 years on this earth.
The " excessive jubilation " high fives and jumping around after killing a deer or elk at long range turned my stomach.
You would think they had won a 100 million dollar lottery.
No showing of respect at all for the animal whose life they just took.
I am NOT an anti-hunter, BTW. Have downed quite a few critters myself over my 68 years on this earth.
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Yendor357
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The 9M is inadequate for deer.
Almost every LEO carries a 9M.
Am I the only person who questions that? Seems like a complete contradiction to me.
Almost every LEO carries a 9M.
Am I the only person who questions that? Seems like a complete contradiction to me.
The 35 Rem, 35 Whelen & 9x57 ARE NOT 9mm(.355). Most are .358 dia. Carrying bullet weights of 200 gr. or more.
Puller
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Not even close to being accurate.
HOUSTON RICK
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Not seeing the show, not knowing the person, not knowing the round, not knowing the deer species at issue, but our native deer down here -particularly near the coast - are pretty small (most are dog size or about half the size of grown Ohio deer). Nine millimeter may have been adequate.
A stunt for the camera to get clicks/viewers. I disagree with the ethics.
Much like many influencer idiots doing stuff they should seriously reconsider. No thanks.
+1. I've handloaded .35 Rem for a decade now and I've always used .358-cal bullets (200-Gr).
FWIW I see no contradiction.
A police officer carries a handgun because he or she doesn't expect to shoot anyone, and if they do the goal is generally to compel the person being shot to quickly change their behavior.
Hunting is a completely different activity, where the goal is to kill the target as quickly and painlessly as possible.
"Patrol rifles" exist for a reason.
Doug M.
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It is probable that a good shot with the G34 (longer barrel) could do this well, but it smells of a dumb stunt to me. Would I use a 9mm pistol or carbine to take a deer if I HAD to? Yes. Is it a good practice? Probably not.
Yeah that's true but a good cop always has that in the back of their mind. Some officer friendly types that just go bebopping along can be oblivious. We've all seen what the consequences of having them in critical positions can be.Frailer said:
Well yes and no. If you're faced with the necessity shooting someone you've concluded deadly force is justified and necessary. The point then becomes stopping that person as completely and quickly as possible. No one will say out loud that you're trying to kill them but that's what you're trying to do because that's what achieves the goal of stopping them completely and quickly. Painlessly however doesn't enter into the equation.Frailer said:
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Yeah, I think everyone knows handguns aren't as effective as rifles. That's not disputed.Frailer said:
I don't advocate for ridiculously long shots of any kind. I just didn't care much for your argument.
