.21 Sharp - new kid in town

[1BadSmith]

With this release, I would urge all these gun companies to step up and immediately release a 27 gauge and a 409 cal as well. Huge profits to be had, one could say!!!!

 

[moosedog]

I'll make a prediction that this will end up like the Electronic Ignition Remington Rifles and ammo of years past.

 

[chief38]

My suggestion - - - RUN & don't look back! Another attempt to separate your Greenbacks from you. I can't wait to see how much the ammo will cost a few years down the road after a bunch of people actually buy a gun chambered for that cartridge. Winchester will (or might be) the sole supplier) of that chambering.

NOTE: if lead bullets are restricted or outlawed, they already have lead free 22's, 22 mags.

If you need a small caliber varmint rifle and a .22 Hyper Velocity round that is already made won't due, then step up to the 22 magnum which has been around for decades, has many makers of ammo and is readily available.

If a 22 mag won't due then step up your caliber to something that will and is a caliber readily available at a reasonable cost.

Almost every one of the Johnny come lately "miracle" calibers has either failed commercially, become very hard and or expensive to get. We have more than enough variety of calibers and chambering to fulfill anyone's needs IMO. The .21 Sharp seems like a money grab to me!

 

[mauser9]

Yeah already got lead free 22 L.R. ammo out there. Even CCI offers 22 mag. ammo which is lead free. might see how it performs in my gun.

 

[TJm15.38]

It's too late in life to switch to another rimfire caliber. Think I'll stick with tried and true .22lr.

 

[AJ]

Just another way to scam more money from the consumer........

 

[SweetMK]

They should have designed it as a .22 Sharp,,
(the same bullet diameter as the 22LR)
THEN, have Brownell's offer a reamer that any homeowner could operate,

The reamer has two functions,, enlarge the chamber of the rifle to the needed .23 diameter,,

and the end of the reamer has ".23" engraved so that the reamer could be used to re-stamp the barrel.

With that,, my trusty old Winchester pump could shoot the new round.

 

[Piwo]

Of all the cartridges out there, they pick the 1st and oldest....the original self contained metallic cartridge to compete with. It's going nowhere. I would have preferred that they put their energy and resources into making primers, powder and 410 shotgun ammo.

The wheel has already been invented.

 

[SweetMK]

Of all the cartridges out there, they pick the 1st and oldest....the original self contained metallic cartridge to compete with. It's going nowhere. I would have preferred that they put their energy and resources into making primers, powder and 410 shotgun ammo.

The wheel has already been invented.

There is ALWAYS room for a re-invent,,,,,,,,,

Look at what Bill Ruger re-invented,, some pistols,, didn't he??
Maybe not exactly S&W, or COLT,, but, they sell,,,,,,,

 

[SG-688]

I had to dig for the information to refresh my memory of another new rim fire cartridge from a decade ago. The NRA apparently has forgotten it.

What has become of the .17 Winchester Super Magnum??

".17 Winchester Super Magnum, commonly known as the .17 WSM, is a rimfire rifle cartridge developed by the ammunition company Winchester in 2012. It descended from a .27 caliber nail-gun blank cartridge by necking down the blank case to take a .17 caliber (4.5mm) bullet. Initial loadings were with a 20 grains (1.3 g) bullet, delivering muzzle velocities around 3,000-foot-per-second (910 m/s)." (Wikipedia)

 

[mauser9]

I had to dig for the information to refresh my memory of another new rim fire cartridge from a decade ago. The NRA apparently has forgotten it.

What has become of the .17 Winchester Super Magnum??

".17 Winchester Super Magnum, commonly known as the .17 WSM, is a rimfire rifle cartridge developed by the ammunition company Winchester in 2012. It descended from a .27 caliber nail-gun blank cartridge by necking down the blank case to take a .17 caliber (4.5mm) bullet. Initial loadings were with a 20 grains (1.3 g) bullet, delivering muzzle velocities around 3,000-foot-per-second (910 m/s)." (Wikipedia)

Still making ammo for it I read on another forum. Savage had the only gun for a while at least. Light bullet I know. Always stuck with my 22 mag. though with the 30-40 grain stuff. Figured might be better off with the heavier bullet for varmints.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

Easy pass. The grandchildren liked the .22 LR and I remember my grandpa loved his Winchester 1906.

 

[2152hq]

Since they already seem to have found a way to mfg solid, non-lead projectiles for the .22LR,,why intro a new caliber that can use such but requiring a bbl change on existing .22rf guns to do what??

BBl changes,,maybe relining bbls if someone offers proper liners. That ain't cheap anymore either.

But it makes no sense to change the entire caliber to use a bullet made of All Life on Earth Ending Lead when they already have solved the issue in present caliber form with non-lead bulleted .22RF ammo.

Make more of that and price it fairly if they want to be PC and think it'll make them friends in the Greenie World..
Don't waste time with silly new calibers, powders and AR accessorys.

People are wanting for simple primers
Focus...

 

[hkcavalier]

Gun makers are searching for the next big thing. It's been subcompact 9mms for some time, but that's slowed. People keep telling me that tacticool lever guns, 5.7s, and PCCs are the hot ones right now, but this seems to be marketing over actual purchases, like the old time radio station constantly playing a song because it's popular...but it's popular because they keep playing it. It's a bit of a self-licking ice cream cone.

Most of the rapid strides seem to be in optics. I'm saving my money for the open lensless "floating dot" holographic sights that are likely less than 5 years away. Ditto for inexpensive thermal or combo low light/thermal optics.

 

[DWalt]

And everyone should remember the 5mm Remington RF. I had one of those for awhile.

 

[AJ]

And everyone should remember the 5mm Remington RF. I had one of those for awhile.

A friend has one and uses it for small small game pests. We were talking about it today at the gun shop as they have a box on the shelf from an estate. The last run of 5MM we could remember was about 10 years ago by Fochi IIRC. My friend bought three cases of it to tide him over.

 

[GypsmJim]

When MS has everybody on earth Using Windows 7 (or 98 or 95 or XP or whatever), the market is saturated. So, they discontinue support and make everybody buy a new computer.

Same with the gun industry. Who the heck needs a 6.5 Creedmoor?

So, the current thinking is that since .22 LR is such a big market, why not make that obsolete as well? $$$$ in their eyes.

Seems to me that now we need to go to every Wallyworld in the area and buy out all the bulk .22 they have in stock. If they still have a limit, just go back several days in a row.

That'll fix 'em.

 

[DWalt]

A friend has one and uses it for small small game pests. We were talking about it today at the gun shop as they have a box on the shelf from an estate. The last run of 5MM we could remember was about 10 years ago by Fochi IIRC. My friend bought three cases of it to tide him over.

Aguila in Mexico made 5mm RF ammo for awhile around 10-15 years ago. Someone was selling a CF version. You could buy a kit with cases, loading tools, bullets, and a bolt modification. No loaded 5mm CF ammo was available to the best of my knowledge. The US distributor for Aguila was here in San Antonio back when I had my rifle, and I nearly bought a case of ammo for mine then. But I decided to sell the rifle and five boxes of Remington ammo instead.

 

[AJ]

Same with the gun industry. Who the heck needs a 6.5 Creedmoor?

I have been thinking that for years! What was wrong with the 6.5x55?

 

[45Smashemflat]

It falls into the “I think it’s cool” category, much like the 17HMR and the shorter 17.

That said, neither were cool enough for me to invest in a gun or ammo….