There is only ONE Supreme Court case on a private person carrying gun inside a facility known as a US Post Office and it addresses the parking lot as well. It is illegal for any private person to do so as of this writing. It does not matter if there is a no gun sign or any of that. If it is a facility staffed by postal employees and has a sign that says post office, it does not matter whatsoever, whether it is a lease or owned outright by the feds, anyone that thinks so, please post your authority, because you have none.
As it stands, it is illegal for me or you or anyone without a badge to carry any gun into a post office. Read the case, it is in English and anyone can understand if they read it 3-4 times, drunk or sober, but I jest.
This is the government's brief and why they won on the issue.
And this is the parking lot that was determined to be illegal to have a gun in the truck, on postal property. A smart guy would park next door in the mud, duh.
And the ruling was: It is illegal to possess a gun in a post office parking lot or inside a post office. This is for us, it has nothing to do with postal employees or police.
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IV. CONCLUSION
Accordingly, we AFFIRM the district court order to the extent it upheld 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(1) as applied to the Avon post office building. We REVERSE the district court order to the extent it found that regulation unconstitutional as applied to Bonidy’s request to be able to carry a gun in his vehicle onto the Avon post office parking lot. We REMAND for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion.
And that law they confirmed has dozens of restrictions about what you can and cannot do on postal property. For example, you cannot park and sell your car there. You cannot even drive into the parking lot without a valid driver's license. You cannot do your political campaigns there and so on. And the simple and relevant section is"
the same force and effect as if made a part hereof.
(l) Weapons and explosives. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, rule or regulation, no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.
It is pretty simple and unless there is a recent change by the Postal Service, the Congress of the Courts, it is solid law. And violations of that law is a federal crime.
It does not matter what I think or what some real estate law you may think applies, this is the only ruling that applies. As a former prosecutor, this would be an easy case to prosecute because it is a simply intent crime. All the US Attorney has to prove is that (1) you knew there was a gun in your car or on your person, and (2) you entered a place you knew was a post office or postal parking lot.
I think it is a dumb law as applied to the parking lot, but what I think is totally worthless in the eyes of the law.
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title-39/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-232/section-232.1 Read the law for yourself and you will sound knowledgeable when you give opinions about it.
As it stands, it is illegal for me or you or anyone without a badge to carry any gun into a post office. Read the case, it is in English and anyone can understand if they read it 3-4 times, drunk or sober, but I jest.
This is the government's brief and why they won on the issue.
And this is the parking lot that was determined to be illegal to have a gun in the truck, on postal property. A smart guy would park next door in the mud, duh.
And the ruling was: It is illegal to possess a gun in a post office parking lot or inside a post office. This is for us, it has nothing to do with postal employees or police.
Bonidy v. United States Postal Svc., No. 13-1374 (10th Cir. 2015)
Plaintiff Tab Bonidy lived in a rural area near Avon, Colorado. He was granted a concealed carry permit under Colorado law and regularly carried a handgun for self-defense. Avon’s post office did not deliver mail to residents’ homes; instead, it provided mailboxes in the post office building...
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IV. CONCLUSION
Accordingly, we AFFIRM the district court order to the extent it upheld 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(1) as applied to the Avon post office building. We REVERSE the district court order to the extent it found that regulation unconstitutional as applied to Bonidy’s request to be able to carry a gun in his vehicle onto the Avon post office parking lot. We REMAND for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion.
And that law they confirmed has dozens of restrictions about what you can and cannot do on postal property. For example, you cannot park and sell your car there. You cannot even drive into the parking lot without a valid driver's license. You cannot do your political campaigns there and so on. And the simple and relevant section is"
the same force and effect as if made a part hereof.
(l) Weapons and explosives. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, rule or regulation, no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.
It is pretty simple and unless there is a recent change by the Postal Service, the Congress of the Courts, it is solid law. And violations of that law is a federal crime.
It does not matter what I think or what some real estate law you may think applies, this is the only ruling that applies. As a former prosecutor, this would be an easy case to prosecute because it is a simply intent crime. All the US Attorney has to prove is that (1) you knew there was a gun in your car or on your person, and (2) you entered a place you knew was a post office or postal parking lot.
I think it is a dumb law as applied to the parking lot, but what I think is totally worthless in the eyes of the law.
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