The Little Bighorn...

I remember seeing a documentary on TV where archaelogists combed the battlefield charting the type and location of every cartridge case they found, and analyzing the firing pin/hammer strikes to see in what kind of firearm they were fired.

They came up with a very interesting picture of the battle and how it progressed in time and space. While I don't think they accounted for subsequent deposition of cases in non-combat situations (hunting, etc.), I still think it was a valuable exercise, and as I recall, it challenged some established notions both of the course of the battle and how well the Indians were armed.

While they had an amazing variety of firearms, they apparently had a LOT more Spencer, Henry and Winchester rifles than they were originally credited with.

I don't know who Custer THOUGHT he was going to come up against at the Little Bighorn, but it definitely wasn't the force he actually encountered. To me he made the same sort of miscalculation as the Japanese at the Lunga River on Guadalcanal... with similar results.

I believe ive seen that same doc--which was part of a series on Discovery Channel about 10 years ago. I found what they found on Custer's last fight-to be absolutely amazing and likely true.
 
Whenever you're in the Little Bighorn area, you really should visit the site of the 1866 Fetterman Massacre south of Sheridan. Like Custer did in 1876, Fetterman let his ego get the better of him and was lured into an ambush led by a young brave named Crazy Horse. His entire troop was massacred. Some lessons are hard to learn.
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The Fetterman site is very haunting, quite small and contained. I don't know how it looks today, but when I visited it back in the 1980s, it was in the middle of nowhere with no other visitors, traffic or any people anywhere, far out of sight of the fort site, and you could really get an idea how doomed Fetterman's soldiers must have felt at the end.

This fight was a bit different than the LBH. It was actually a planned ambush, and Fetterman was lured there by an attack on a wood supply train. A large part of his command was infantry who hiked to their death, and were armed with muzzle-loading Springfields; they likely didn't get a lot of shots off. The only exception were two civilian scouts with Henry rifles who were found among a pile of empties.

The following year, at the Wagon Box Fight nearby, the soldiers and woodcutters had Springfields with the Allin breechloading conversion, which made all the difference.
 
^^^ What he said... This is myth number 1.

Though I love the movie-the worst of the lot has to be" They Died With Their Boots On.
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Post # 50 is one of the finest, most interesting posts I have read on fine, interesting forum.

Thank You sir. It was a day i will always remember.

To be looking out in the direction of the Little Bighorn
from the Crow Nest and realizing Custer and his Indian
scouts stood right there gazing thru a monocle
while making a command decision to attack was pretty
cool. Then being shown the Brass marker where the 7th
Cav crossed the divide was awesome.

Chuck
 
Though I love the movie-the worst of the lot has to be" They Died With Their Boots On.

And as for Evan Connell's beloved "Son of the Morning Star": When he wrote the book, published in 1984, none of the archaeological results were available, but by the time they made the movie in 1991, they should have known better, and still embraced the old cliche with gusto.

Otherwise, they took great care with authenticity in uniforms, weapons and such (except for that ridiculous wig they stuck on David Strathairn as Benteen :eek:)

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I tried watching the above once--just never "felt" for lack of a better word) worthwhile. I think I fast-forwarded through much of it? or either it was Dances With Weasels? I forget which.
 
Though I love the movie-the worst of the lot has to be" They Died With Their Boots On.
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It's very much like "My Darling Clementine". It's fun, but it sure as hell ain't Western American history.

It's about as realistic as "Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars", but like the latter, it's still entertaining... but nothing more.
 
It would be similar to the Vietnam memorial for me. An official history that I cannot entirely accept. A sad, solemn experience thinking of those who died doing a tough, underpaid job. May the combatants rest in peace.
 
One documentary I saw, looked at the bones of Custer's soldiers, they concluded they were all loaded with gout and arthritis. Their teeth were rotten and in general were in poor health.
 
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