According to ATF web page CC permit only valid for purchase of a RIFLE I lieu of actual NICS check.
I got a DENIED the other day...
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Here's the actual letter to licensees. Says "firearm . . . " Happily, Missouri was added with this letter, thus ending my chronic delay issues . . .
May 2025 Open Letter to Federal Fireams Licensees
I got a delay once years ago. Changed to Proceed the next day, but since getting a TX LTC there is no additional background check, so it really is "instant."
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I was a cop for 30 years. Before I retired I had a habit of running my DL# to see if our system was up or not. So one day I run my number and I'm on the "No Fly List". It seems that Abdul something or other had used a name similar to mine and got me listed. It never caused me any problems with gun purchases or otherwise. Eventually my name was removed from the list.
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His return phone call was "above and beyond" amd he does not owe you ,nor would he even know, an explanation.
Just glad I live in NC, where CCW permit holders do not get a NICS check. Quite a change from my last residence (MD), where even with an unrestricted carry permit I had to put up with the 7-day waiting period.
Common name, delays or a motherfudgeer to get around! Sorry for the French, but there's no way to put it politely. My name is shared with two guys on death row, one guy who's wanted for multiple murders in Louisiana, an environmental terrorist from New Jersey, who has been hiding in New Zealand For over a decade, and if you search my name on Google and a half a second, you get 46 billion hits lol. I got delayed all the time and was told by the FBI that purchasing their little four digit code would not help. I asked if there is anything that I could do to fix the problem and they told me there was nothing I could do Lol??? With the new laws that just came out requiring federal IDs nationwide, when I signed up for the new federal ID I found out what has been doing this for roughly 3 decades now. When I lived in Texas, they did not require a middle name, or middle initial on your license. Back then your name wasn't even fully capital, just the first letter of your first and last name were capitalized. When I move back to Ohio, I never thought anything of it. I never put my middle name on my ID. When I got my Ccw, and my S 20 license, they required full middle names for both! That was the missing piece because I had a middle name on two other documents proving my identity, but it wasn't on my drivers license being the primary identification it was an automatic red flag. So it was never the common name like I was told. That guy in the FBI could've done me a real solid by telling me have your middle name put on your drivers license! Just goes to show the smallest thing can be what hold you up.
Understandable!
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The US is odd to me in the way it treats names and signatures. In England, your signature is something you develop in your own hand. Whether it includes your middle name or initial is up to you. In the US that works for most cases like signing checks, lease/mortgage papers and stuff like that. However, when dealing with the US government, things can go sideways. When you "sign" your naturalization papers, you are required to write your full name in legible cursive. That was not my signature, but I don't think ICE wanted to be bothered with facts.
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In Wisconsin for all guns a 4473 is completed but only submitted to NICS for long guns. All handgun purchases are approved by the state. When I was working for Cabelas it was not uncommon for a delay on a long gun through NICS, and immediately approved by the state. I am the only me in the entire United States as well as when I was in the Army. Makes for instant approvals. Always give them your SSAN because it identifies you as you, and not some other John Smith with a record. For the record, I had a guy who wanted to buy a long gun. He didn't want to use his SSAN on the 4473 and he was denied. He had a common name. I resubmitted using his SSAN and he was immediately approved. Keep that in mind, you are not the only John Smith in the country and maybe there are a few of the others who are not as nice as you are.
Not sure what system TN uses, other than the data goes to the TN bureau of investigation. Response seems the same for purchases both before and after getting the state's enhanced carry permit.Does you state use the NICS system? Do you have a CCW license and your state accepts that in lieu of a background check? Having legally purchased firearms as a visa holder, on a Green Card, and as a citizen, details matter.
I've had this in my mind for a long time. I've asked about it here and there but never come up with a real answer.
My Signature is not legible. It sort'a looks like a squiggle with a tail. If I'm required for some reason to write my name - legibly - and I'm hauled off into court and asked, "Is this your signature?", I would have to answer "No!" It's my name, and I wrote it, but that's not my signature. How would that affect the outcome, legally?
I have a name that is the same as notorious individuals. (It's one of the most common names for males with my surname.) Because of this knowledge (and knowing what "government work" means), I always add my SSN to prevent issues. Adding the SSN has forstalled any difficulties for me.
