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I was looking at one today that I'm seriously considering.

The barrel has been shortened to 4-1/4", recrowned, and a new sight silver-soldered on. Looks to be pretty well done. Lockup and action are good, as are the bore and chambers.

Probably refinished at the time the barrel was cut, because there is a hint of of very slight pitting under the bluing on the left side, and the hammer and trigger have been polished - no case colors left. Slightly more sideplate gap than normal. Otherwise the rollmarks and finish all look pretty good.

It has all the patent rollmarks on the top of the barrel, not centered of course, and the sight base actually overlaps the rollmarks, due to the shortened barrel.

It has a Hogue monogrip on it, so I'd want to replace those since they are so ugly.

With a serial number of 183XXX and all the patent rollmarks on the top of the barrel, I'm assuming it is a commercial model, correct?

Pretty hard to pass on a good shooter like this one for under $400 OTD.
 
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Sorry, I didn't take any pictures. I already have an old shooter-grade 1917 commercial with the 6" barrel, so I was seriously thinking of just passing on this one.

But I got to thinking about it and pretty much came to the "any shooter N-frame is worth $500" conclusion.

I'm just a sucker for 4" N-frames...
 
I learned a long time ago that I couldn't buy every good deal that I run across. Only you know if the purchase would fit your situation.

But it sure sounds like a good deal. If done right, it would be a very hansom and practical revolver in a caliber that starts with four. You could almost certainly get your money back out of it … :)
 
My gun show rule #5 is never pass up a good deal on a decent gun: you can always resell a good deal and get your money or more out of it if you decide not to keep it!

The # is too high for a WWI military gun, and if it doesn't have these roll marks, it's a commercial:

Butt stamping:

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Photo credit: lestert357


Under barrel stamping:

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Photo credit: gjamison

Be sure to check for rechambering to 45 Colt if that matters to you.
 
Good things to check Hondo44.

With the nasty Hogue monogrip on it checking the butt might be a little difficult pre-purchase, but I already checked under the barrel and there is no US property mark or any sign of the kind of grinding that would be necessary to remove it if it were ever there. That's another reason I concluded that it was a commercial model.

The old commercial model I already have has a 177XXX serial number so since this one is higher, that is further confirmation.
 
Went back and did the paperwork and put half down ($175) on it today.
Snapped a couple of quickie cell phone pics.
Gotta' ditch those ugly Hogues just as soon as I can get it out of BGC jail.
 

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What I can see sure looks good, but unknown what the grips are covering up. If the rest of the gun is in the same condition as the "naked" parts, you really got a deal.
 
I would buy that in a heartbeat!I love 45 acp revolvers and I have one modified 1917 That I truly love.
 
...I'd buy it for $350...

...but the side plate fit and front site detract from the overall condition...

...still looks like a fun shooter though...

...looks like the frame says MADE IN USA so the frame is from 1922 or later...

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Yeah, no doubt about it being refinished. The front sight doesn't look anything like the original, but it seemed to be pretty well done. It is nothing more than a shooter for sure.
But a working N-frame in 45 ACP that is even cosmetically presentable for $350. I couldn't pass on that.
 
Went back and did the paperwork and put half down ($175) on it today.
Snapped a couple of quickie cell phone pics.
Gotta' ditch those ugly Hogues just as soon as I can get it out of BGC jail.

Looks nice!! I see what you meant about the front sight! Yuk.

I had two shooters with violated front blades like that and couldn't stand them.

On the first one the barrel was also cut so no collectibility, but I still wanted the original sight. I found a front 1/2 of a .44 barrel with an original blade. Cut the base out of the barrel, curved the bottom and made it higher like the .45 needs by leaving a little extra under the base, un-soldered the goofy front sight, and soldered the new one on.

Another one with original barrel length and sight base also had a funky file job on the blade. I milled it off and milled a slot in the base just like the factory did for target models. They would pin in a target front blade.

But I made a proper 1/2 moon sight blade and pinned it in place. That's what I'd recommend for yours. You won't have to jeopardize the barrel blue by soldering a replacement base and blade on.

Just some ideas if it helps,
 
Looks nice!! I see what you meant about the front sight! Yuk.

I had two shooters with violated front blades like that and couldn't stand them.

On the first one the barrel was also cut so no collectibility, but I still wanted the original sight. I found a front 1/2 of a .44 barrel with an original blade. Cut the base out of the barrel, curved the bottom and made it higher like the .45 needs by leaving a little extra under the base, un-soldered the goofy front sight, and soldered the new one on.

Another one with original barrel length and sight base also had a funky file job on the blade. I milled it off and milled a slot in the base just like the factory did for target models. They would pin in a target front blade.

But I made a proper 1/2 moon sight blade and pinned it in place. That's what I'd recommend for yours. You won't have to jeopardize the barrel blue by soldering a replacement base and blade on.

Just some ideas if it helps,
The front sight doesn't look that bad to me. It isn't anything like the original, but it isn't that bad either. I've certainly seen a lot worse. If it shoots to point of aim, I probably won't do anything to it.
To each his own I guess.
 

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