27-2 w/4" Barrel - Uncommon?

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I saw a 27-2 with a 4" barrel recently and wondered how uncommon this may be. I looked in the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson book and saw the 4" barrel was introduced in 1979 and the 27-3 was introduced in 1982 so that would mean there were only a few years of possible production of a 4" 27-2. I can't recall seeing another 4" 27-2 but maybe I wasn't always paying attention....

Are these somewhat uncommon or not?
 
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They are uncommon, perhaps no more than a few thousand at the end of the 27-2 run. There were also -3 and later guns in this length, and transitionals with either the pinned barrel or recessed cylinder but not both. Hope this is helpful.
 
p&r guns were only available for about 16-18 months during the transition period to the later style guns. they can also be found with pinned bbls and non recessed cylinders and the other way around. both blue and nickel were made. in this area I have seen more nickeled ones than blued ones. that may be different depending on the area of the country. just like all 27's,they shoot great.
 
Yeah, I think they're kinda rare.
I found one 13 years ago at a gun show. I had been reading a lot of Skeeter Skelton stories and he loved to write about the M27. Guy there had a nice 4" one. No box but absolutely perfect. I talked him down to $400.:D
I had no idea how rare, and valuable they are until I joined this Forum.
Now I just need a 3 1/2" and a 5" to make me happy.
I'm pretty easy to please.:cool:
Jim
 
So what ya'll are are saying is that the 27-2 4" that I picked up in 1993, for $350, was my first duty gun, shot the heck out of it and carried almost every day for 10 years, has extensive holster wear, may be kinda rare? Well hell! Wish I had known then what I know now!! Best money I ever spent!!
 
The blue 4" 27 isnt that common especially if older than dash 2 but that probably has alot to do with the fact that the 4" Model 28 is cheap and plentiful in comparison.

I have both but the general conundrum seems to be unless your collecting each barrel length of Model 27 why pay $1000 for a 4" Model 27 when you can buy a 4" Model 28 for half that and not have to worry about ruining the finish by carrying and shooting it ?
 
Here is a post abut this subject from one of our esteem members made many years ago.



A couple of years back I researched the M27 barrel lengths re: number of “years offered” in S&W documents (Annual catalogs, All Model Circulars, Price lists). For Postwar manufacturing, the Model 27 and Pre-M27 was offered in the following barrel lengths for the following number of years.

6” barrel = 1946-1994 48 yrs
8.375” barrel = 1949-1991 46yrs
3.5” barrel = 1946-1979 34yrs
5” barrel = 1946-1979 34yrs
6.5” barrel = 1946-1968 23yrs
4” barrel = 1980-1991 12yrs
Notes:
1 – Prior to cataloging the 4”, special orders accounted for all the 4” production.
2 – Model 27 sales (in general) were very sluggish after the Model 19 was introduced.
3 – Model 27 4” guns were cataloged the first time in 1980, the same year the L frame was introduced.
4 – Duty usage of the 4” M27 was probably slow as compared to the (lower cost) M28 Highway Patrolman after 1954.
5 – All Nickel 4” models noted to date have been around 1980 production of the M27-2, all with TT/TH/TS/WO/RR
6 – The years cataloged may not correlate to actual production numbers, but it speaks to the general availability and orderability.
7 – The above is for standard production guns, it does not cover any commemorative or re-issue special editions. Both the 3.5” and 5” were reintroduced at least once.
9 – In 1969 S&W changed to the N serial prefix as a requirement of the 1968 Gun Control Act.



From my experience the4" P&R 27 was the most difficult, by far, to find when I put the set of barrel lengths together!

jcelect SWCA#LM723
 
I'd love to collect all the offered 27-2 barrel lenghths. Once done, one could start over in nickle. Perhaps an S-prefix collection would be the most challenging to put together, even while ommiting the 4".
Such an undertaking would be prohibitively expensive right now. Nice to dream...thanks for sharing jcelect!
 
Here is a post abut this subject from one of our esteem members made many years ago.



A couple of years back I researched the M27 barrel lengths re: number of “years offered” in S&W documents (Annual catalogs, All Model Circulars, Price lists). For Postwar manufacturing, the Model 27 and Pre-M27 was offered in the following barrel lengths for the following number of years.

6” barrel = 1946-1994 48 yrs
8.375” barrel = 1949-1991 46yrs
3.5” barrel = 1946-1979 34yrs
5” barrel = 1946-1979 34yrs
6.5” barrel = 1946-1968 23yrs
4” barrel = 1980-1991 12yrs
Notes:
1 – Prior to cataloging the 4”, special orders accounted for all the 4” production.
2 – Model 27 sales (in general) were very sluggish after the Model 19 was introduced.
3 – Model 27 4” guns were cataloged the first time in 1980, the same year the L frame was introduced.
4 – Duty usage of the 4” M27 was probably slow as compared to the (lower cost) M28 Highway Patrolman after 1954.
5 – All Nickel 4” models noted to date have been around 1980 production of the M27-2, all with TT/TH/TS/WO/RR
6 – The years cataloged may not correlate to actual production numbers, but it speaks to the general availability and orderability.
7 – The above is for standard production guns, it does not cover any commemorative or re-issue special editions. Both the 3.5” and 5” were reintroduced at least once.
9 – In 1969 S&W changed to the N serial prefix as a requirement of the 1968 Gun Control Act.



From my experience the4" P&R 27 was the most difficult, by far, to find when I put the set of barrel lengths together!

jcelect SWCA#LM723

Wow Joe. That is very impressive and a very nice set you have collected. Brian
 
p&r guns were only available for about 16-18 months during the transition period to the later style guns. they can also be found with pinned bbls and non recessed cylinders and the other way around. both blue and nickel were made. in this area I have seen more nickeled ones than blued ones. that may be different depending on the area of the country. just like all 27's,they shoot great.

Exactly...I have at least three nickel 4" 27-2s and only 1 in blue. I had to trade away a pristine nickel 4" even up to even get that one blue 4". Go figure??
 
We are very lucky here in southern California that nice 4” 27-2s are pretty easy to find ! ;) ;)
Our offensive gun laws will not allow us to export them though ! :) :)

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Jerry
 
Thanks guys - that's what I like about asking questions here - you get great answers AND pictures too! The one I saw was nickel and I now know to keep a sharper eye out and hope to see a blue one.

Wave
 
I was fortunate to grab this one a couple of years ago. Probably overpaid a tad when I bought it, but it was so nice, I didn't even dicker with the seller.
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I have a 4" nickle 27-2 ,ts, th, tt, rr, wo, P&R. Also has a the wood case. it was made right around 1980.

 
I have a nickel 27-2 4" barrel P&R with TT/TH but the front sight does not have a insert and the rear sight blade is plain black.

Unfortunately it does not Target Stocks. Is the football the correct style god it?

What do I have?
 
In a thread on the 4 inch Model 27-2 here a couple of years ago, several posted that their guns had the same sights, no red insert or white outline. Mine has both; most did.

Football Goncalo Alves targets would be correct.
 


Nickel 4" Model 27-2 transitional N-940,000 range, recessed cylinder but non pinned barrel ,
smooth combat trigger / wide TH, RR/WO
 
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