"Slide Fire" on the 15-22?
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Yeah, most indoor ranges say "no rapid fire allowed", but the outdoor ranges in my area have no rules against it.
The recoil causes to fire, as long as your finger is still on the trigger, and that still constitutes a "trigger pull".
thacheese
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wow, my indoor range allows machine guns.. guess i'm lucky. one time i was in some guy was firing a p90 
Redbulladdikt
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no rapidfire at our outdoor range either--but the private range (Izaac Walton League) we can do pretty much what we want since we pay dues and all
Hi all. Picked up a 15-22 recently.
I can personally attest that it works. I was having a fit with my 3lb timney trigger and light strikes, but when it ran it buzzed through the whole mag.
A I tried out a new firing pin spring and that seemed to solve my FTF's. No rapid fire allowed at range so I have to wait until the weekend to hit up the outdoor range that is ok with the slide stock.
For anyone attempting this, I'd try the JP springs first. I already had the Timney trigger on my .223 but due to ammo prices and indoor range issues I swapped it to the 15-22 to get some more use out of it.
The slide stock is expensive but it is as close to F/A I've ever come.
I can personally attest that it works. I was having a fit with my 3lb timney trigger and light strikes, but when it ran it buzzed through the whole mag.
A I tried out a new firing pin spring and that seemed to solve my FTF's. No rapid fire allowed at range so I have to wait until the weekend to hit up the outdoor range that is ok with the slide stock.
For anyone attempting this, I'd try the JP springs first. I already had the Timney trigger on my .223 but due to ammo prices and indoor range issues I swapped it to the 15-22 to get some more use out of it.
The slide stock is expensive but it is as close to F/A I've ever come.
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I don't understand the fascination with "bump fire" or "slide stock" rapid fire systems. You have to hold the weapon in your shoulder (or waist) "just right" and have the trigger pull "just right". Those positions are generally not considered proper form to deliver accurate rounds on target. I guess it's fun to see/hear the simulated FA fire, but as far as delivering accurate fire on target, they are only gimmicks. Better to train delivering accurate double and triple taps on multiple targets than blazing through 25 wild rounds.
Brett248Vista
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It's only a matter of time....
Aceman58
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This invention is directly from "Bump Fire" the old "hook your thumb to your belt loop, push your rifle forward with your weak hand, place thumb in trigger and hook to belt loop"... Guys be careful doing this. Also, big draw back is you really don't want to hold the pistol grip when doing this "Bump Fire", so you really can't control your weapon. It can be done on a 22LR, seen it and done it. I don't recommend doing this nor do I support the Slide Fire. I give them an "A" for effort and design, but an "F" for major safety issues... Full auto has not place on the range, only in battle and the M&P 15/22 by many, is already considered like a toy, which it is NOT! All we need is one wacko using this in a crime and watch the government really crack down on the M&P 15/22 or rifles in general. Something WE DON'T WANT FOR SURE. AGAIN just my opinion guys...
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1fly2ty
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I had one in my hands the day before thanksgiving in Wyoming and what the gent from Concord Ca, said is incorrect! It does not work anything the way he described it, there is a small sliding block tucked in between the rear of the trigger guard and the stock with an elongated hole,as you apply 7-8 pounds of constant pressure to the trigger and push your left hand forward the recoil cyles the entire rifle. Think of it this way if you had a pump shotgun and held the gun tight to your shoulder and racked the pump never letting go of the trigger you have the possibility of shooting multipe shots. I aggree with the poster that said its a lot of money, for a little bit of fun! There are no safety issues that apply to this type of firearm modification that wouldn't apply to any semi auto rifle or pistol with someone emptying a 25 round mag 1 shot at a time but doing it very rapidly. I thank god that I live in a state with very liberal gun laws and I don't have to deal with people that skew a simple impliment into some invention that is going to mame and kill people and we are all going pay for it! Get a Clue Ca They're trying to take our guns no matter whether someone gets shot with one or not, You guys are the poster child for gun control and yet you keep electing more legislators that continue to erode your rights under the constitution. Do me a favor if thats the best intellect you have please stay in the state of Ca.
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Aceman58
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1fly2ty, first of all I'm correct, it is a form of BUMP FIRE, you push the rifle forward, that plastic block in the rear of the trigger supports you trigger finger, as you push the rifle with your weak hand forward, the recoil push the rifle back, your finger sets off the trigger and it repeats until the mag. is empty. The only difference is you have a firmer grip on the pistol grip because the stock and pistol grip are one and the same, sliding front to rear. And yes, there should be a switch to make the stock stop sliding to make it back to semi-auto. You shouldn't talk intellect with folks who shoot many different firearms including this gimmic, of which I did and thus just giving my opinion. This item is not allowed on most public range anywhere. If your state allows it, more power to you. Now go and try and use your optics with this setup, good luck. Maybe you will report how accurate it is using this system and how you put all 25 rounds in 1"... Yea, sometimes it swings way to the left. As I stated, it's just my opinion..
there is. you can lock it up for semi auto shooting.
1fly2ty
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Aceman,
You could have explained it in your first post,like you did in your second post! Instead you had to embellish it by inserting placing fingers in belt loops etc. Then you had to continue with mindless dribble about someone shooting it at or hurting groups of people with it. All this from a peson that if you look at your profile is a current or former LEO. Now on your second post you elude to the fact that you shoot a lot of different weapons and know better than all of us, kind of condescending don't you think? I spent 21 years in the military attached for 3 months every year to a small arms training unit, so I think I have a better than average grasp on fireams and their maintainance and repair. In my post I said I had one in my hands I did not say I bought it, I felt that it was not worth the $350.00 they were asking for it, so trying it with optics is not possible and if you can't control an M&P 15-22 during a rapid fire string, I would suggest some time at the gym lifting weights. Oh wait thats right you guys aren't allowed to have suppresors or cans in Goofyfornia can ya, so I guess the recoil would be a bit tough to control! I also have a small machine shop business and barrel custom rifles and install an occassional suppressor, or muzzle break! NEVER ASSUME anything!
You could have explained it in your first post,like you did in your second post! Instead you had to embellish it by inserting placing fingers in belt loops etc. Then you had to continue with mindless dribble about someone shooting it at or hurting groups of people with it. All this from a peson that if you look at your profile is a current or former LEO. Now on your second post you elude to the fact that you shoot a lot of different weapons and know better than all of us, kind of condescending don't you think? I spent 21 years in the military attached for 3 months every year to a small arms training unit, so I think I have a better than average grasp on fireams and their maintainance and repair. In my post I said I had one in my hands I did not say I bought it, I felt that it was not worth the $350.00 they were asking for it, so trying it with optics is not possible and if you can't control an M&P 15-22 during a rapid fire string, I would suggest some time at the gym lifting weights. Oh wait thats right you guys aren't allowed to have suppresors or cans in Goofyfornia can ya, so I guess the recoil would be a bit tough to control! I also have a small machine shop business and barrel custom rifles and install an occassional suppressor, or muzzle break! NEVER ASSUME anything!
Aceman58
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1fly2ty, not meant in dis-respecting you, I just gave my opinion only. I respect all experiences shooters like yourself, I am lucky to have shot several weapons with "what I call gimmics" in the 18 years as a rangemaster, I respect your views and understand your point, I did not mean to jump on anyone, just give my views. Since I am currently still in LE, it is hard to justify shooting full auto in all most anyplace but in battle, and since I'm more in transition, now I'm enjoying the shooting for fun vs. defensive (thus a M&P 22lr). It appears to me that you have much experience with the military's weapon, were we in LE have few, and the few are limited to SWAT type situations. And yes, here in Commifornia we have laws that eliminate the FUN factor, of that I can't comment but I do not like what I'm seeing here. I do appreciate your feedback and respect your views, thanks for giving them. May we both keep them in the 10 ring in either states.. Have a great day.
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