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"Slide Fire" on the 15-22?
Has anyone tried to install a "Slide Fire" stock on a 15-22 yet? If it is possible...is there enough recoil for it to work? Seem like it would be alot of fun if it does work.
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First off, I'm not sure if the Slidefire would even fit on a 15-22. The way it works is that it moves back and forth on the buffer tube. Additionally, I contacted the manufacturer regarding using a 22lr upper and they said that it was not reliable as there just wasn't enough recoil.
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Definitely not enough recoil
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never heard of the slidefire, but wow, that looks cool.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I was afraid there might not be enough recoil.
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Thanks a lot! Now I need to buy an M&P-15 and get one of these!!! Dammit!
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No.
This stock works with recoil and WILL NOT work with a .22
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How did he get his 15-22 fully auto like that ?
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How did he get his 15-22 fully auto like that ?
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He must have installed some sort of bump fire system or something.
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How did he get his 15-22 fully auto like that ?
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Slide Fire Solutions SSAR-15
It's pricey, but legal.
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Freakin awesome.
Got to get one before they get banned...
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I'm in cali. so there might be an issue with that SSAR-15. But it is sweet, the only issue i might have with that is going thru ammo that much faster.
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I'm in cali. so there might be an issue with that SSAR-15. But it is sweet, the only issue i might have with that is going thru ammo that much faster.
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No issue as of yet, it's 50 states legal since you still need to pull the trigger for each shot, it doesn't mess with the internals at all.
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No issue as of yet, it's 50 states legal since you still need to pull the trigger for each shot, it doesn't mess with the internals at all.
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How many ranges would allow you to shoot with this device? I'm guessIng not many if any at all since it is basically turning the gun into an automatic weapon.
I've never shot with one of these slide fire devices but do you actually pull the trigger for each shot or is the recoil causing the trigger to fire? Looking at the video I doubt there is anyone who could actually pull a trigger that fast. Plus most ranges have a No Rapid Fire rule.
It wouldn't surprise me to see the official "approval" letter pulled on this device which is clearly walking a thin edge on legality.
I do think it would be cool to shoot occasionally. But in my area someone would call the cops and then you would have to go through the hassle of convincing the authorities it is legal.
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Each one is sold with letter from ATF. They are going for mid $300 and up. Found lots of info on web about them, even the lawsuit that Akins has for patent issues. Gun shop I frequent has a few and owner uses it on a .223. Says it works good. But still waiting, remember Akins device was sold for awhile with ATF approval then they changed their mind and over night it was a no-no to have.
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Each one is sold with letter from ATF. They are going for mid $300 and up. Found lots of info on web about them, even the lawsuit that Akins has for patent issues. Gun shop I frequent has a few and owner uses it on a .223. Says it works good. But still waiting, remember Akins device was sold for awhile with ATF approval then they changed their mind and over night it was a no-no to have.
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so even after they changed they're mind the ones that had already been sold did they get grandfathered in being as how at the time they were acquired it was legal to have?
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Its all legal as long as you don't get caught
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You can go to their website they have info on how it works. No springs, that is what makes it different from the Akins device. The grip and stock are one piece. There is a clip with two flanges at bottom that connects to base of receiver where grip bolts on, the stock and grip slides over the buffer tube. It is essentially a bump fire stock. Your finger rests on a block and you have to pull the gun forward, when you do it goes bang, recoil pushes it back, if you are still pushing gun forward then you are sliding it into your finger again and so on.
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I don't think they were. Not sure. Still too much money to drop on a ify product IMO. If they do stay legal though we will defiantly need Tac22s speed loader.
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How many ranges would allow you to shoot with this device? I'm guessIng not many if any at all since it is basically turning the gun into an automatic weapon.
I've never shot with one of these slide fire devices but do you actually pull the trigger for each shot or is the recoil causing the trigger to fire? Looking at the video I doubt there is anyone who could actually pull a trigger that fast. Plus most ranges have a No Rapid Fire rule.
It wouldn't surprise me to see the official "approval" letter pulled on this device which is clearly walking a thin edge on legality.
I do think it would be cool to shoot occasionally. But in my area someone would call the cops and then you would have to go through the hassle of convincing the authorities it is legal.
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Yeah, most indoor ranges say "no rapid fire allowed", but the outdoor ranges in my area have no rules against it.
The recoil causes to fire, as long as your finger is still on the trigger, and that still constitutes a "trigger pull".
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yeah i'm in cali also and the times i have gone to burro canyon and rapid fired any of my guns there has been no problem. The indoor ranges don't even allow double taps
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wow, my indoor range allows machine guns.. guess i'm lucky. one time i was in some guy was firing a p90
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no rapidfire at our outdoor range either--but the private range (Izaac Walton League) we can do pretty much what we want since we pay dues and all
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Hi all. Picked up a 15-22 recently.
I can personally attest that it works. I was having a fit with my 3lb timney trigger and light strikes, but when it ran it buzzed through the whole mag.
A I tried out a new firing pin spring and that seemed to solve my FTF's. No rapid fire allowed at range so I have to wait until the weekend to hit up the outdoor range that is ok with the slide stock.
For anyone attempting this, I'd try the JP springs first. I already had the Timney trigger on my .223 but due to ammo prices and indoor range issues I swapped it to the 15-22 to get some more use out of it.
The slide stock is expensive but it is as close to F/A I've ever come.
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I don't understand the fascination with "bump fire" or "slide stock" rapid fire systems. You have to hold the weapon in your shoulder (or waist) "just right" and have the trigger pull "just right". Those positions are generally not considered proper form to deliver accurate rounds on target. I guess it's fun to see/hear the simulated FA fire, but as far as delivering accurate fire on target, they are only gimmicks. Better to train delivering accurate double and triple taps on multiple targets than blazing through 25 wild rounds.
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This stock will work on a 15-22!! I just bought mine last week and it worked great. Check out my youtube video of my shooting it. Go to youtube and search trishjms.
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This invention is directly from "Bump Fire" the old "hook your thumb to your belt loop, push your rifle forward with your weak hand, place thumb in trigger and hook to belt loop"... Guys be careful doing this. Also, big draw back is you really don't want to hold the pistol grip when doing this "Bump Fire", so you really can't control your weapon. It can be done on a 22LR, seen it and done it. I don't recommend doing this nor do I support the Slide Fire. I give them an "A" for effort and design, but an "F" for major safety issues... Full auto has not place on the range, only in battle and the M&P 15/22 by many, is already considered like a toy, which it is NOT! All we need is one wacko using this in a crime and watch the government really crack down on the M&P 15/22 or rifles in general. Something WE DON'T WANT FOR SURE. AGAIN just my opinion guys...
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I had one in my hands the day before thanksgiving in Wyoming and what the gent from Concord Ca, said is incorrect! It does not work anything the way he described it, there is a small sliding block tucked in between the rear of the trigger guard and the stock with an elongated hole,as you apply 7-8 pounds of constant pressure to the trigger and push your left hand forward the recoil cyles the entire rifle. Think of it this way if you had a pump shotgun and held the gun tight to your shoulder and racked the pump never letting go of the trigger you have the possibility of shooting multipe shots. I aggree with the poster that said its a lot of money, for a little bit of fun! There are no safety issues that apply to this type of firearm modification that wouldn't apply to any semi auto rifle or pistol with someone emptying a 25 round mag 1 shot at a time but doing it very rapidly. I thank god that I live in a state with very liberal gun laws and I don't have to deal with people that skew a simple impliment into some invention that is going to mame and kill people and we are all going pay for it! Get a Clue Ca They're trying to take our guns no matter whether someone gets shot with one or not, You guys are the poster child for gun control and yet you keep electing more legislators that continue to erode your rights under the constitution. Do me a favor if thats the best intellect you have please stay in the state of Ca.
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1fly2ty, first of all I'm correct, it is a form of BUMP FIRE, you push the rifle forward, that plastic block in the rear of the trigger supports you trigger finger, as you push the rifle with your weak hand forward, the recoil push the rifle back, your finger sets off the trigger and it repeats until the mag. is empty. The only difference is you have a firmer grip on the pistol grip because the stock and pistol grip are one and the same, sliding front to rear. And yes, there should be a switch to make the stock stop sliding to make it back to semi-auto. You shouldn't talk intellect with folks who shoot many different firearms including this gimmic, of which I did and thus just giving my opinion. This item is not allowed on most public range anywhere. If your state allows it, more power to you. Now go and try and use your optics with this setup, good luck. Maybe you will report how accurate it is using this system and how you put all 25 rounds in 1"... Yea, sometimes it swings way to the left. As I stated, it's just my opinion..
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It works on the bump fire principle.
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1fly2ty, first of all I'm correct, it is a form of BUMP FIRE, you push the rifle forward, that plastic block in the rear of the trigger supports you trigger finger, as you push the rifle with your weak hand forward, the recoil push the rifle back, your finger sets off the trigger and it repeats until the mag. is empty. The only difference is you have a firmer grip on the pistol grip because the stock and pistol grip are one and the same, sliding front to rear. And yes, there should be a switch to make the stock stop sliding to make it back to semi-auto. You shouldn't talk intellect with folks who shoot many different firearms including this gimmic, of which I did and thus just giving my opinion. This item is not allowed on most public range anywhere. If your state allows it, more power to you. Now go and try and use your optics with this setup, good luck. Maybe you will report how accurate it is using this system and how you put all 25 rounds in 1"... Yea, sometimes it swings way to the left. As I stated, it's just my opinion..
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there is. you can lock it up for semi auto shooting.
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I don't need anything that eats more ammo, for fun or cool.
Can't think of any other reason to try this?
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Aceman,
You could have explained it in your first post,like you did in your second post! Instead you had to embellish it by inserting placing fingers in belt loops etc. Then you had to continue with mindless dribble about someone shooting it at or hurting groups of people with it. All this from a peson that if you look at your profile is a current or former LEO. Now on your second post you elude to the fact that you shoot a lot of different weapons and know better than all of us, kind of condescending don't you think? I spent 21 years in the military attached for 3 months every year to a small arms training unit, so I think I have a better than average grasp on fireams and their maintainance and repair. In my post I said I had one in my hands I did not say I bought it, I felt that it was not worth the $350.00 they were asking for it, so trying it with optics is not possible and if you can't control an M&P 15-22 during a rapid fire string, I would suggest some time at the gym lifting weights. Oh wait thats right you guys aren't allowed to have suppresors or cans in Goofyfornia can ya, so I guess the recoil would be a bit tough to control! I also have a small machine shop business and barrel custom rifles and install an occassional suppressor, or muzzle break! NEVER ASSUME anything!
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1fly2ty, not meant in dis-respecting you, I just gave my opinion only. I respect all experiences shooters like yourself, I am lucky to have shot several weapons with "what I call gimmics" in the 18 years as a rangemaster, I respect your views and understand your point, I did not mean to jump on anyone, just give my views. Since I am currently still in LE, it is hard to justify shooting full auto in all most anyplace but in battle, and since I'm more in transition, now I'm enjoying the shooting for fun vs. defensive (thus a M&P 22lr). It appears to me that you have much experience with the military's weapon, were we in LE have few, and the few are limited to SWAT type situations. And yes, here in Commifornia we have laws that eliminate the FUN factor, of that I can't comment but I do not like what I'm seeing here. I do appreciate your feedback and respect your views, thanks for giving them. May we both keep them in the 10 ring in either states.. Have a great day.
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couldn't agree with you more, full auto fire has its place and that is primarily on the battlefield. I wish you best of luck,it sounds like your close to or retiring from LE, I appreciate that you devoted your life to the great cause of upholding the laws of your state. I only wish there was a way to turn Ca around so that it would be more gun friendly. I have shot a number of matches at the range outside Sacramento but no longer travel over to those matches due to the unfriendly nature of Ca. gun laws. Good luck with your transition, and no offense taken just a friendly debate.
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10-4 1fly2th, must of been the Best of the West, which Concord PD took first place last year or the year before (getting old can't remember). Yea, done a lot of tactical training and enjoy that very much. May start to get back into competitive shooting, but not sure if I really want to do that. Gonna go back to re-loading 5.56, to help off set the cost of that ammo. Went to the CPD range today to do a full test on my M&P, it shot so well will all sorts of ammo, even the Remington (only 1 FTE). This Mini AR was a blast to shoot. Looking forward to your reviews.. Keepem in the X ring..
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Slide fire will work on 22lr
The slide fire stock will work. It's true the recoil is a huge factor but I went shooting the other day and a guy at the range had one on his m&p 15 22.
I asked him how he got it to work and he said he put a 2-3lb trigger in it.
It worked flawlessly with a 50rd drum mag. Not a single jam
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There are a couple threads here on it
Slide fire + M&P 15-22 + Timney Trigger = FULL RETARDATION
Works great... full mag dumps at will........ Funnest toy i have....
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ok i noticed alot of guys on here saying that the slidefire stock will not work on the 15-22..... WRONG!!!! try it before you speak. i have it mounted on my m&p 15-22 and it works flawlessly! a little polishing on the trigger group, a lighter trigger and hammer spring and boom your good to go. just remember get the trigger pull below 3.5 lbs and youll be fine. 100,000+ rounds a couple triggers and hammers later and still loving it!
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ok i noticed alot of guys on here saying that the slidefire stock will not work on the 15-22..... WRONG!!!! try it before you speak. i have it mounted on my m&p 15-22 and it works flawlessly! a little polishing on the trigger group, a lighter trigger and hammer spring and boom your good to go. just remember get the trigger pull below 3.5 lbs and youll be fine. 100,000+ rounds a couple triggers and hammers later and still loving it!
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thats because the original thread is over a year old. if you read the latest responses, people have talked about them working in more recent discussions.
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There are a couple threads here on it
Slide fire + M&P 15-22 + Timney Trigger = FULL RETARDATION
Works great... full mag dumps at will........ Funnest toy i have....
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+1 For that!!
http://youtu.be/LLEOnxDZMIs
http://youtu.be/HFe_83IPLxk
http://youtu.be/9vvQPm8Dfp8
Let me know if these work please
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This stock works with recoil and WILL NOT work with a .22
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Here is a link to a M&P 15-22 using this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F8Z5ooMZpY
Looks like fun...
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Years ago I saw a little electric motor thing that went in the trigger guard and all you did was mash a little button and and you had controlled auto fire on any weapon with out stock adapters and such....Wonder what happened to the things?.......For the 3 or 4 hundred dollar slippy slide stocks why not get a smith to convert your shooter to select fire and pay the $200 tax??????
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