misswired
Absent Comrade
They kept calling the decorated officer a coward for peeing in bottles........in reality, he was damn smart.
Can't imagine holding off an enemy for two hours to get air support in this era..... unbelievable!!!!
2020 movie "The Outpost"
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They kept calling the decorated officer a coward for peeing in bottles........in reality, he was damn smart.
Can't imagine holding off an enemy for two hours to get air support in this era..... unbelievable!!!!
johnt671
US Veteran
I went on such a rant about the way the infantry that I forgot to post that I hadn't seen the movie yet I did read the book. Great book, but sad to see the number of lessons were forgotten that led up to this event.
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vigil617
US Veteran
I don't think that this thread on "Outpost" has gone zombie yet, so just wanted to point out that it's on Netflix now. Wife and I streamed it last night. A great and terrible story, all at the same time, with visual effects of the battle that make you feel you are right there. Loud explosions at unexpected times, too, so don't be holding your glass while you watch this one.
That part of Afghanistan in the Hindu Kush Mountains is rugged almost beyond belief. And whoever's bright idea it was to build that camp there should have been drummed out of the service along with the four officers who were reprimanded for not adequately resupplying and fortifying the post. The Taliban were able to dial in all the strong points and critical locations over a period of time before the battle, so when it went off, our guys had a hell of a fight to deal with. Amazing that only eight of the approximately 80 defenders died, and another 27 were wounded. The most decorated unit in the Army after that battle, including the two MOHs, a couple of DSCs, and several Bronze and Silver Stars.
Funny thing my wife asked me during the movie: "Do all soldiers have such potty mouths?" In circumstances like those, yeah, honey.
Five stars.
That part of Afghanistan in the Hindu Kush Mountains is rugged almost beyond belief. And whoever's bright idea it was to build that camp there should have been drummed out of the service along with the four officers who were reprimanded for not adequately resupplying and fortifying the post. The Taliban were able to dial in all the strong points and critical locations over a period of time before the battle, so when it went off, our guys had a hell of a fight to deal with. Amazing that only eight of the approximately 80 defenders died, and another 27 were wounded. The most decorated unit in the Army after that battle, including the two MOHs, a couple of DSCs, and several Bronze and Silver Stars.
Funny thing my wife asked me during the movie: "Do all soldiers have such potty mouths?" In circumstances like those, yeah, honey.
Five stars.
Sistema1927
US Veteran
It was intense.
Make sure to watch it all the way through the credits.
Make sure to watch it all the way through the credits.
vonn
US Veteran
Poor leadership at higher levels of command caused this incident. Grunts paid for it.
It is indeed. Have you read the book? Done any research on what happened?
The Outpost vs. the True Story of the Battle of Kamdesh
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wetdog1911
Member
That was the very impression that I got also, and *negligent*
is about the mildest term I would use for the bright sparks that decided on that location in the first place.
Has anyone read the book by Jake Tapper? I'm just wondering if he did any follow up on what happened to the brass that picked that particular 'well' in the first place?
I'll watch it again, but not right away. The sheer stupidity of that location is just mind bending.
Rob
I have. As I have researched many things that are memorialized in books and movies. I have actually participated in a couple events that are memorialized in books and film, some thru so-called documentaries. There are nuggets of truth in all, but the fiction genre' rarely gets the story totally correct and sometimes totally misses it. I take all that with a grain of salt and try to enjoy the entertainment . . .
usmc2427765
US Veteran
The movie was very intense and also showed the incredible bravery of our fighting men. What fool thought it was a good idea to place an outpost in the bottom of a valley surrounded by mountains on all sides. I can only assume it might have had something to do with " political correctness" or some such thing. Thanks God we have brave young men and women willing to go in harms way for our country.
Protected One
Member
He probably got a promotion out of it.
I bought the movie on blue ray last weekend, but haven't watched it yet.
vigil617
US Veteran
Yes, and in exchange for their willingness and courage, they deserve leadership that will not place them in deadly, untenable situations that, with reasonable oversight and planning, could have been avoided. I agree with the description of that camp as a "s***hole," and it richly earned its destruction by our side after it was closed.
It's a very good movie, well worth watching. But in the end, it's a movie, entertainment.
BTW, a small nit, but one that I find almost disrespectful. Service members are AWARDED the MOH for valor "above and beyond" their call of duty. They are referred to as Awardees or Recipient, not winner. It's not a contest. I've had the honor and pleasure of knowing several MOH Recipients. These man are beyond "Hero's".
Sorry if I may have offered anyone, it wasn't my intent.
BTW, a small nit, but one that I find almost disrespectful. Service members are AWARDED the MOH for valor "above and beyond" their call of duty. They are referred to as Awardees or Recipient, not winner. It's not a contest. I've had the honor and pleasure of knowing several MOH Recipients. These man are beyond "Hero's".
Sorry if I may have offered anyone, it wasn't my intent.
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