I believe Eastwood's on record saying he simply flubbed the line but they went with it; it was supposed to be a "special, light load" indicating it was still in .44 Magnum.
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Lighter loads would likely not have worked in his Auto Mag, they would not have cycled the action reliably...
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Two dead horses in one thread. I like it.
45NUTT
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You guys crack me up!!! 
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee. That hurts the sinuses!
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee. That hurts the sinuses!
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Oh, it ain't that hard...
...you just let your arm ride up. Two hands gives better control, but it doesn't hurt any more or less.
...you just let your arm ride up. Two hands gives better control, but it doesn't hurt any more or less.
Wanna make it three? We can compare, yet again, the merits of 9mm and 45 ACP.
Doug M.
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FWIW, the reference to crummy performance in many settings from .38s comes from the day of RN lead ammo, a configuration that is mostly worthless. The mere change to SWC and a better understanding of tactical anatomy (where to shoot have the best chance of hitting vitals) would do more to save good guys than all the other wizardry.
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Wanna make it three? We can compare, yet again, the merits of 9mm and 45 ACP.
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Sargeyork
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I was always fascinated and wanted to try some of the lead wadcutter hollow points sometimes referred to as the FBI load in my GP100 and Tracker 692. Some of you guys on here are Hilarious!!!!(meant in a good and positive way)
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A quick search will find you a box for 25-30 bucks. There's nothing magical about them, other than a good rep. It's a good load, but anything they stopped from happening most likely would've been stopped with another .38. Shot placement uber alles.
LOL!!!! Four it is!
I was shooting....
I was shooting wadcutters out of my .357 last Thursday and the recoil was pretty dang stiff. Of course they were loaded with 14.5 grains of 2400.
I'm getting older so I should probably move to a poo poo loading like "light specials" in a model 29.
I was shooting wadcutters out of my .357 last Thursday and the recoil was pretty dang stiff. Of course they were loaded with 14.5 grains of 2400.
I'm getting older so I should probably move to a poo poo loading like "light specials" in a model 29.
Patrick L
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I belive the " light Special" quote was from Magnum Force, not The Enforcer.
The .38s ricocheting off windshields was indeed The Enforcer.
I loved those movies as a teenager. It seemed to me the guns were as much the stars as the actors. Dirty Harry was very much the Model 29 vs the Walther P38 (at least the ending.) Magnum Force was clearly the Model 29 vs the Colt Python throughout, both on the range and for real. The Enforcer was M16s and LAWs rockets. And Tynne Daly had the snub Python. Then of course Sudden Impact (I thought it was getting old by then) was the Automag. By Dead Pool I just lost interest.
And let's light a candle to Albert Popwell, who was in the first 4 films, always a different tragic character. Poor guy was a bank robber who gets shot but survives in Dirty Harry ( and didn't feel lucky) the pimp killed by motorcycle cop in Magnum Force, a black activist who get arrested in The Enforcer, and finally Horace in Dead Pool, also unfortunately killed.
The .38s ricocheting off windshields was indeed The Enforcer.
I loved those movies as a teenager. It seemed to me the guns were as much the stars as the actors. Dirty Harry was very much the Model 29 vs the Walther P38 (at least the ending.) Magnum Force was clearly the Model 29 vs the Colt Python throughout, both on the range and for real. The Enforcer was M16s and LAWs rockets. And Tynne Daly had the snub Python. Then of course Sudden Impact (I thought it was getting old by then) was the Automag. By Dead Pool I just lost interest.
And let's light a candle to Albert Popwell, who was in the first 4 films, always a different tragic character. Poor guy was a bank robber who gets shot but survives in Dirty Harry ( and didn't feel lucky) the pimp killed by motorcycle cop in Magnum Force, a black activist who get arrested in The Enforcer, and finally Horace in Dead Pool, also unfortunately killed.
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charlie sherrill
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Several years ago near Lumberton.Ms. the police chief and another officer were chasing bad guys who had robbed a bank in nearby Poplarville, Ms. One of the bad guys jumped in the back seat of the getaway car and hanging out the window emptied a 1911 at the pursuing chief. He hit the windshield of the cruiser three times, one right in front of the steering wheel, and all three rounds cracked the windshield and bounced off without penetrating. They were captured a few miles later when they ran off the road.
You guys are all missing the point! Just watch some of the early gangsta' movies and you'll see the goblins shooting their 45s laid over on their sides and shoving their guns forward as they're fired which gives the bullets an additional 3,000 fps muzzle velocity.
That's because the 45 ACP was designed to kill a man (and his soul), not a car.
Most windshields are pretty hard to defeat. It is laminated glass, which spreads out impact forces, and it's angled, so it deflects objects rather than absorbing the full impact.
Doug M.
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^ Without knowing the loading, hard to judge. We trained on windshields and other stuff with issued 45 ACP ammo and did fine. There is a reason for that aspect of the FBI testing. I am pretty are that 45 app ball ammo would not do well on a windshield.
SWFan27
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And if we took advice from gun grabbers, we would all know that a 9mm will blow lungs out.
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