460 XVR Alaska Protection

Thought they did Human/Bear attacks in ranges that use big screen video technology.
Maybe Python/Gator stuff for South Florida. :D

Met a big Gator as I rounded a curve in Sanibel decades ago on my bicycle.
Left my 357 Snub at the hotel.
The skills learned as a kid on bikes/motorcycles, kept me upright, as I slide across the hard and sand.
The Muley that almost gored me in '68 was another eye opener. :D
 
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Ordered a .310" front sight for our 3.5"/460 and it was delayed for a Tuesday the 25th arrival. Amazon said they didn't know where it was but would allow a refund after the 31st.
Asked the Lady to look into it and would call back at noontime the next day.
Set the main and jib for a reach across the eBay that night.
Found one in damaged packaging for $10.

They first one arrived on the 26th, good Gal at Amazon followed it up, and the the other one yesterday.
One on the 3.5" and the other in the 8".
 
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Unless you disclose, at 2.5 times the size of Texas, the State of Alaska would almost never be aware unless you're in a public campground. But if you tell them as you should by law, you have to submit a Defense of Life or Property Report Form as well as turning over the bear's hide and skull. Alaskans can take grizzlies with the proper license, tag, season, and areas. Non-Alaskans need a registered guide in most cases.

I've never shot a bear with a 10mm. The bear in the pic was harvested with a rifle in a remote area and reported to the State in accordance with hunting laws. I wouldn't want to try a 10mm in a bear defense situation as the caliber is lacking for that purpose. And that was my only point. 10mm Heavy Buffalo Bore is 607 ft. lbs. at the muzzle (Item 21DG 190/20), the Buffalo Bore Heavy 460 I use is 2,455 ft. lbs., or slightly over 400% of the 10mm's kinetic energy. Shot placement is not really going to be possible w/a charging grizzly. 10mm and 460 pictured.

The 500 is not a "far better" choice. While the 500 generates more kinetic energy than the .460 at all ranges, the two are close enough in knock-down power for bear defense at close range it is not a factor. As you say at 2,000 ft. lbs., that is "more than enough to cancel a bear's ticket."

What does matter is the 460 has significantly less recoil, some reviews say 33% less (e.g. Chuck Hawks). With high powered loads, the .460 kicks over three times as hard as a full power .44 Magnum and the .500 kicks over four times are hard as a .44 Magnum. My own Buffalo Bore Heavy factory load is 300 grain with roughly 2,300 ft. lbs. at the barrel in a 3.5" barrel and 2,455 ft. lbs in the longer test barrel. It is punishing but accurate to shoot. I practice DA at 15 yards and SA at 25. Sore wrist a couple times.

If you can handle a big-bore revolver with heavy loads, they do offer profoundly more on-impact authority over any other handgun. If you can’t, opt for increased accuracy and rapid-fire capability with a 10mm alternative.

And lastly, a firearm is my second line of defense. Bear spray is more effective, according to a study of 83 encounters from 1985 and 2006 that was published in the Journal of Wildlife Management. “Of all persons carrying sprays, 98% were uninjured by bears in close-range encounters,” the review states.

A study of 269 incidents involving firearms and bears in Alaska between 1883 and 2009 showed that bears were killed in 61 percent of the incidents. “Although firearms have failed to protect some users, they are the only deterrent that can lethally stop an aggressive bear, reads the article “Efficacy of Firearms for Bear Deterrence in Alaska” that the Journal of Wildlife Management also published.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service compared the two methods of defense in a paper “Bear Spray vs. Bullets. Which offers better protection?”. “Based on [USFWS law enforcement] investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50 [percent] of the time,” the report reads. “During the same period, persons defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries.”

Did you see the news on the large pile of bear scat found outside Anchorage? It contained gold teeth, a 10mm Glock, and an empty magazine in it. No need to call BS. It's tongue-in-cheek to make a point. :-)

I shot my college buddy's dad's .460 about 10 years ago at his club... He bought it because he was taking the family to Denali Nation Park and it's surrounds. I've been called a glutton for recoil by some... I swear that 8.5" barreled 460 is LEGIT POWER! And that was only with the Hornady 225gr flex-tip XTP's that push 2,200fps I believe from memory... More power than a 123gr 7.62 at the muzzle in that hand-cannon... Never Again! But I'm glad you are practicing and it will certainly dispatch any grumpy or surprised Brownie! I still say a heavy hard-casted .454 Casule will be easier to get off that extra round accurately and still punch a Brownie's Ticket, Hard!

And I agree with the Bear Spray for carry/use as long as you aren't spraying into an oncoming at you wind... That was about the only time I've heard it become less than effective but nobody has time to think about that when the Grim Reaper comes testing your waters. Maybe designate whether you or your Buddy are going to draw the spray and who draws the firearm and both of you unload on that cute and furry b@stard when charged... I could see me ruining my shorts if such happened to me but I'd still get off either the spray or pills and my brother or buddy would get off a hot round "I Pray/Hope..."

Our German Shepherd is a dang good early warning radar and near fearless if we are threatened so I'd own/carry/take a good pure-bred adult one of them in the woods with me Everytime if I were in Alaska! She's already saved our Azzez once in the Nantahala National Forest one night we were stalked and paralleled by "something" after our Streamlight Flashlights went down with brand new outta the box Surefire 123A batteries. Allowed me to pull and get low ready my .44Mag until we got back on trail and then home... Then we had "something" beat on our cabin wall taunting us all night until near dawn.

Keep Carrying, Practicing, and Rock on/live your Life!

And that is an insane story about the large pile of scat with a G20 and Gold Teeth but I don't doubt it... I was almost eaten by a couple wild boars once and a Brownie wouldn't have any trepidation with cubs, scared, or hungry after the hibernation cycle wake!
 
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Ordered a .310" front sight for our 3.5"/460 and it was delayed for a Tuesday the 25th arrival. Amazon said they didn't know where it was but would allow a refund after the 31st.
Asked the Lady to look into it and would call back at noontime the next day.
Set the main and jib for a reach across the eBay that night.
Found one in damaged packaging for $10.

They first one arrived on the 26th, good Gal at Amazon followed it up, and the the other one yesterday.
One on the 3.5" and the other in the 8".

Call Smith and Wesson... They sent me a new ramped red insert front sight for my M625 when it came loose and flung down range under .45Super Recoil for Free... Think it was here within 3 days and All on their dime...
 
Thought they did Human/Bear attacks in ranges that use big screen video technology.
Maybe Python/Gator stuff for South Florida. :D

Met a big Gator as I rounded a curve in Sanibel decades ago on my bicycle.
Left my 357 Snub at the hotel.
The skills learned as a kid on bikes/motorcycles, kept me upright, as I slide across the hard and sand.
The Muley that almost gored me in '68 was another eye opener. :D

I saw where an outdoorsman/Alaskan Guide that had been attacked by a Brownie years ago was put thru an outdoor range with a big stuffed bear on a rail and a cable pulley line... I think the distance was 35 yards and he attempted to pull his bear spray from a chest holster and spray the bear before it got to him... The "Bear" came at him at simulated charging speed of 34mph I think it was. He couldn't even get the spray un-holstered before it got to him. Said reality came back to day one when he was attacked. He too had the bear shot off of him by a Buddy.

I'm sure he stayed there all day to get the drill down as I know I would have.
 
When 4 wheeling or hiking up here in the woods, I always pack my 460 { 5" bbl } in my chest holster. we have black bear, mountain lion, but so far no grizzly known to be in my immediate area , yet !
 
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