geekeye
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i don't have a 460, but i can tell you that my muzzle braked rifle is significantly louder than similarly powerful guns without a brake. all my emergency use guns are un-braked in case i don't have time to put ear pro on.
460 XVR In An Emergency - How Deaf Will I End Up?
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Darkenfast
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Regarding the whole "bear defense" scenario, There's a study that shows a wide variety of handguns being successfully used to stop a bear attack. It seems that being able to get hits quickly and accurately does matter. The study has been posted several times in similar threads here.
This is different from "hunting", where an ethical one-shot kill at longer ranges is desirable.
My opinion (and it is just that, issued from the safety of my armchair), is that any reasonably powerful handgun with the right ammunition that you can use quickly, repeatably, and accurately at short range may be a better choice than something that might work better in a hunting scenario. Each individual must make that choice for themselves.
For me, that would probably mean a Glock Model 20/40 or a Smith and Wesson 686+ (probably four-inch). That's based on MY history of drawing, handling, and shooting long-slide Glocks and L-frames.
Your experience may vary.
This is different from "hunting", where an ethical one-shot kill at longer ranges is desirable.
My opinion (and it is just that, issued from the safety of my armchair), is that any reasonably powerful handgun with the right ammunition that you can use quickly, repeatably, and accurately at short range may be a better choice than something that might work better in a hunting scenario. Each individual must make that choice for themselves.
For me, that would probably mean a Glock Model 20/40 or a Smith and Wesson 686+ (probably four-inch). That's based on MY history of drawing, handling, and shooting long-slide Glocks and L-frames.
Your experience may vary.
This is similar to the other end of the spectrum when hunting large dangerous game in Africa with big bore rifles.
If your keester is on the line you'll never feel the recoil!
I'd guess the same would apply here if staring down a large bear - but its the blast that will be immediately forgotten.
If your keester is on the line you'll never feel the recoil!
I'd guess the same would apply here if staring down a large bear - but its the blast that will be immediately forgotten.
LennyLames
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I hunt deer with my 14" 460XVR up north. I always use a minimum of active noise reduction (ANR) ear muffs.
The ear muffs keep my ears warm. I can hear better than with bare ears. Sound direction is not compromised since each cup has its own microphone. I can hear the rustle of leaves and branches and know which direction any sound is coming from.
But it's really not sufficient for the 460XVR. I insert passive ear plugs into my ears and use the ANR on top. I turn the volume up on the ANR so I can still hear sounds through the passive plugs.
They don't come off unless there's no chance of shooting, e.g., when indoors. I don't want to be caught unprotected in case I need to shoot quickly so fortunately, I can't answer how deaf you'll end up.
The ear muffs keep my ears warm. I can hear better than with bare ears. Sound direction is not compromised since each cup has its own microphone. I can hear the rustle of leaves and branches and know which direction any sound is coming from.
But it's really not sufficient for the 460XVR. I insert passive ear plugs into my ears and use the ANR on top. I turn the volume up on the ANR so I can still hear sounds through the passive plugs.
They don't come off unless there's no chance of shooting, e.g., when indoors. I don't want to be caught unprotected in case I need to shoot quickly so fortunately, I can't answer how deaf you'll end up.
I would expect a full strength .460 load to cause some permanent damage. Most loads are operating around 55,000 PSI and obviously pushing a bullet way past the speed of sound. When it comes to noise level it's basically a short barreled rifle with a barrel cylinder gap to make it even louder.
rincar
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Tis better to be a little deaf and with tinnitus than to end up as Bear poop. A shorter Barrel like a 5 or six inch might be easier to handle and Quicker on the draw
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I would rather have tinnitus instead of being a memory and name on a cross surrounded by a bunch of flowers on the side of a trail.
