A Crook is a Crook

Just an observation, but locally, we have appear to have had an increase in DUI, and just plain insane driving, coupled with the open southern border.

I blame the COVID era for the insane driving. Here in Vegas we had people crowing how much later they were getting up and how fast they were going on our freeways when commuting in that period. When traffic levels returned to normal (and more, with our burgeoning population) these people were reluctant or point blank refused to adjust to the new reality.
 
I blame the COVID era for the insane driving. Here in Vegas we had people crowing how much later they were getting up and how fast they were going on our freeways when commuting in that period. When traffic levels returned to normal (and more, with our burgeoning population) these people were reluctant or point blank refused to adjust to the new reality.

In my area it took a good 6 months to a year before they started paying attention to the lines on the road, much less the speed limits.
 
The bad Officer does great damage to the profession. When you have a crooked Banker, Doctor, Teacher, Preacher,Attorney, Mechanic, Farmer, Gun Dealer or Politician it does not taint those professions. Oh wait the last job might have caused more damage to that profession than any.

Remember the over 24,000 known Line of Duty Deaths of LE Officers.

The number of good ones far out weighs the bad ones. In the history of crime & law enforcement everyone can name lots of bad guy outlaws. How many Officers are known for good. There are thousands of unsung heroes wearing a badge whose names will never be known unless they do something bad or loose their lives while serving.

There are good people and bad people in every profession.
Always have been, always will be.

Would "good cops" tolerate the crimes of bad cops? Where were the good cops in the 30 years of this scheme?

Not very many professions can take the freedom away from regular folks, beat and even kill. Most of the time they get away with it and/or move to another agency. We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.

Take the guy in the story. He was pulled over for speeding, while sober, but was charged with aggravated DWI, resisting evading obstructing an officer. They knew what they were doing?

Everything but speeding was dismissed. What other profession can do that?

Then, public, tax payer, money is used to pay off settlements for crimes LE committed against the public!

Here's another one:

Son of lauded FBI agent charged in murder of 13-year-old in Downtown Albuquerque area
By Matthew Reisen / Journal Staff Writer Dec 6, 2024 Updated Dec 9, 2024

Son of lauded FBI agent charged in murder of 13-year-old in Downtown Albuquerque area | News | abqjournal.com

Acee was booked into the Metropolitan Detention Center early Friday morning. His family declined to comment.

Thomas Acee is the son of FBI Special Agent Bryan Acee, a well-respected figure in law enforcement. Most notably, Acee was the lead agent in a sprawling case that largely dismantled the Syndicato de Nuevo Mexico, one of the state's largest and most violent gangs.

In a recent search warrant affidavit, Bryan Acee said he has been with the FBI since 2009 and is currently assigned to the Albuquerque Violent Gang Task Force.

"I primarily investigate prison, street, and motorcycle gangs, as well as violent repeat offenders involved in federal drug and firearm related crimes," he wrote in the affidavit.

This is not the first time his son has faced criminal charges.

In 2021, Thomas Acee was charged in the attempted robbery and shooting of a man at a Halloween party, but a jury found him not guilty last year, according to court records. In March, he was charged with DWI after allegedly crashing into a gate and being found with a gun in his car. The case was dismissed when University of New Mexico police failed to hand over evidence.

I wonder why UNM PD didn't hand over evidence. Professional courtesy?

New Mexico, corruption is thy name.
 
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Corruption takes all forms. I know of a Sergeant in a local county police department who was the highest paid officer in the agency…allegedly more than the police chief. It turned out he and some of his buddies were running a scam. They would until end of shift then find someone to arrest. They would each take a different part in the arrest and processing requiring all to work overtime.

When the court date arrived…all had to appear for the trial…again…all on overtime. They did this enough to make big bucks on the scam. There must have been some poor supervision by higher ups as it wasn't until a local newspaper did an investigation from a tipster that the scam was discovered.

Did any of these officers face charges? No…the lead guy who apparently was the instigator was given a really sweet early retirement package to leave several years before he was eligible. It appears it was easier and cheaper to pay him to retire than to leave him on the job or to expose the department's dirty laundry publicly.

This cretin then got himself a job in another police agency where the big boss was his buddy and benefactor some years before.
 
I fully understand why the silverback is adamant about his "no cop bashing" policy. However abuse of the public trust is another matter and those who do so should be called out for it.

Threads like this can quickly become mine fields so treading lightly is the order of the day.

In this day of eyes everywhere it is easy for a few bad actors to taint the public's perception of putting trust in and willing interaction with those tasked with enforcing laws.
 
You'd be Surprised at how little it takes.....Where is the absolute outrage towards the lead corruptor of this scheme, the lawyer? If you think that this idea originated from the cops and they went and found a lawyer to participate, you're nutz. That lawyer deserves a spot in the for a few years as well as a forever disbarrment.

It takes two. Nobody forced anyone to break the law. Yeah, the lawyer is bad, but nobody forced the cops to take the bribes. Everyone involved was a willing participant knew what was going on, and those who knew and looked the other way gave tacit approval of what was going on.

Is bribing a public official, a misdemeanor or felony?

BTW nobody in the courts noticed that all the cases involving that particular DWI lawyer had a high dismissal rate because the cops didn't show up. Wouldn't that be suspicious?

And people wonder why I have cynical view of all things government.

I'd be willing to bet that there's more corruption going on than the DWI scandal.
 
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There is nothing that frosts me like cops doing stuff like this. I have a bad feeling that there were officers not involved who at least had concerns about what was going on. It is pretty hard for officers with experience to not notice "something".

As much as this really irritates the heck out of me, the worst conduct I have see in LE is at the command/executive level. I always thought the proper thing was to not do anything that would justify enforcement action against another person.

The damage this does to honest aggressive DUI enforcement is a darned shame. Impaired driving is still the most common form of criminal homicide in this country.
 
I despise drunk drivers.

I have seen their handiwork. Quite honestly, if they unalive themselves and hurt no one else, I chalk it up to Darwin, and a win for humanity. If they survive and didn't hurt anyone else, I smile as they're put in the back of a PSP vehicle wearing the silver bracelets.

But when they hurt or kill others, I have to really step back. A good friend of mine in high school was killed by a drunk driver, who was a total piece of ****. My only condolence was that he was small and weak that he probably became someone's human blow up doll during his incarceration.

I have a LEO brother and multiple cousins who took the oath, They would have nothing but scorn and contempt to those who brought shame to the badge in such a manner.
 
'The DWI Enterprise': Thousands of DWI cases could be connected to ongoing scandal

Thomas Clear was the attorney of record for 2,490 DWI cases over 30 years. 15 APD officers accounted for nearly 100 DWI arrests connected to Clear, over the past five years

'The DWI Enterprise': Thousands of DWI cases could be connected to ongoing scandal
... Moreover, court documents indicate that the corruption may extend beyond those already charged. An FBI interview with Rick Mendez, a private investigator who worked for Clear, revealed claims that another attorney was involved in the scheme. Federal authorities have not disclosed the identity of this individual, but the investigation remains ongoing. ...

... The investigation into APD's DWI unit continues, with prosecutors working to uncover the full extent of the enterprise. Target 7 is combing through court records, and so far, multiple high-ranking officers have been linked to dismissed DWI cases connected to Clear.

...

A, LT, with IA, resigned last year.
 
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I see way too many non drunk drivers within danger zone of me violating laws infinitely more dangerous than a few beers or whatever: (texting/eyes down, running stop signs, running pink lights, passing unsafely against oncoming traffic, following too close with bright lights, aggressively retaliating about speed obeying drivers in left lane, inattentively fighting with the wife or other... . It has gone too far extremely scapegoating one subset of drivers and giving a pass to others. You will never get me on that side. This is not a political statement. This is an experienced observation.

Scapegoating one subset? You mean the drunks?

Going easier on drunk drivers is not a hill I'd die on. This isn't the 50s and it's not cute. Would you like some references of some folks who lost kids to drunks?
 
When someone comes to a crook in the road, most people slow down a little then go on their merry way.
 
The worst examples of criminal activity are those committed by people in positions of trust. Cops in the line of duty, ministers attending to their congregations, attorneys as officers of the courts, elected and appointed officials at all levels of government, school officials, the list goes on and on.

Some act out of arrogance, some act out of greed, some act out of mental or emotional problems, some simply succumb to temptation.

Most states have, like New Mexico, reacted to drunk driving problems out of political considerations. Taking a relatively common traffic offense and elevating it to a level similar to intentional and violent criminal acts, mandatory arrest policies, attaching enormous penalties (fines, jail time, civil actions restricting driver licensing, etc) that can be much greater for a first-time DUI than for a repeat violent offender.

Passing such laws is easy to do, and rewards legislators with voter approval at election times. Arresting the perpetrators gains praise an accolades for police officers (as well as increased funding via grants and revenue sharing policies). Prosecuting the offenders secures public attorneys of positive publicity and increased support at the polls.

Meanwhile, the cops see the huge majority of criminal defendants walk without charges, or negotiated plea deals with little in the way of actual penalties while the officers are subjected to attacks at every step of the process. Do some of them wonder why they should bother, why they should do the paperwork, why they should miss days off or change vacation plans in order to attend court proceedings?

Prosecutors face choices every day based on budgets, staffing, court schedules, and other factors. Decisions must be made about which cases to proceed with, which to bargain away, and which to dismiss. I suspect that such decisions may be based upon likelihood of winning, likelihood of advancement, likelihood of positive publicity.

Defense attorneys probably understand the limitations of the justice system and how things can be manipulated in favor of clients paying their fees, while also building a reputation that draws more paying clients.

Not a perfect system, certainly, but probably the best system ever devised for a free society.

I'm not making excuses for any person or group, just trying to offer some perspective. Everybody involved is human, and every human is subject to failures (performance, judgement, attitude, moral, ethical, a long list).

Still, those in positions of trust must be given the fullest possible treatment, no breaks, no sympathy. Stake them out on the anthill and walk away. Set the example for everyone else.

Kind of like how I would like to see the entire system work in every case.
 
The good news is that this scandal was discovered, albeit 30 years late.

Yeah, no thanks to the LAW enforcement officials who knew about the scheme and looked the other way.

It took a civilian who thought he was getting hosed and another attorney who went to the FBI to get things going.

Oh, the irony!
 
Corruption takes all forms. I know of a Sergeant in a local county police department who was the highest paid officer in the agency…allegedly more than the police chief. It turned out he and some of his buddies were running a scam. They would until end of shift then find someone to arrest. They would each take a different part in the arrest and processing requiring all to work overtime.

When the court date arrived…all had to appear for the trial…again…all on overtime. They did this enough to make big bucks on the scam. There must have been some poor supervision by higher ups as it wasn't until a local newspaper did an investigation from a tipster that the scam was discovered.

Did any of these officers face charges? No…the lead guy who apparently was the instigator was given a really sweet early retirement package to leave several years before he was eligible. It appears it was easier and cheaper to pay him to retire than to leave him on the job or to expose the department's dirty laundry publicly.

This cretin then got himself a job in another police agency where the big boss was his buddy and benefactor some years before.

Not to knock law enforcement because I appreciate what they do and the vast majority are highly ethical.

I knew a lot of police officers back in the 80's and attempting to get a DUI arrest near the end of their shift was commonplace for the O/T. Guys working the 8pm - 3am shift posting up near a drinking establishment and pulling folks over for a bad license plate light or failing to signal etc. usually did the trick.

I had personal experience with this scenario one night. My wife myself and a friend were at a local pub until close to closing time.

Sure enough 30 seconds after leaving the parking lot flashing lights in the rear view and an office was pulling us over.

My wife who does not drink was lugging us lushes around, so no worries.

After sticking his head almost in my wife's face and realizing she had not been drinking the guy scolded her about her license plate bulb being out then damn near ran back to his cruiser to get back to the pub before the crowd cleared out.
 
Aggressive traffic enforcement is one of the best ways to interdict criminals of all types. I have never found anything that contradicts the research from the 70s on that issue.

As for hanging out by the watering holes looking for impaired drivers, where is better? Local LE here has a loop through the high volume drinking areas, and WSP sometimes joins in the feeding frenzy. Don't want the sharks to come after you, don't chum them.
 
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New Mexico State Police Chief addresses federal probe of DWI Sgt.

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What's funny about the interview, is that the NMSP was publicly saying that no NMSP officers were involved, even though the paralegal who flipped first specifically named the agencies involved, including the NMSP. Now, he's admitting that they were, in fact, looking at the officer in question for involvement. I'm sure the Feds told the chief months ago who was involved, but he lied anyway.

In the end it all comes out, so why lie and deny? Kinda throws the credibility in the toilet.
 
IMHO, executive level officers are the least credible. That has certainly been my experience with the WSP. The stuff I have seen that should have resulted in felony prosecutions at the highest levels of the agency is appalling. I am not sure that they even understand that the acts are felonies, because their legal training and advising is so poor.

That may not explain the situation here - there may have been reasons why the Chief was informed but told not to disclose it until there was an arrest. I have seen such as a prosecutor.
 
Aggressive traffic enforcement is one of the best ways to interdict criminals of all types. I have never found anything that contradicts the research fro the 70s on that issue.

As for hanging out by the watering holes looking for impaired drivers, where is better? Local LE here has a loop through the high volume drinking areas, and WSP sometimes joins in the feeding frenzy. Don't want the sharks to come after you, don't chum them.

I spent the summer of '75 in Easthampton in a house with a group of friends. The popo would park about a quarter mile away from the bars on Montauk Highway. Easy pickings.
 
My friend here in NC who is a magistrate for 20 more years, said that there are three types who become cops.
1) Bullies. These are the ones who want to push others around, about 10% are like this.
2) Public Servants. True servants of mankind. Maybe were told as kids that cops were noble. I wish there were more than 10%.
3) The VAST Majority, All the rest! People who needed a job at the moment the city was hiring.
Another friend now retired, was running the personnel depart for the local PD and I asked him if what the magistrate said was true. He said yes, only added that those who get hired are the ones who can pass the background check. One drunk driving charge in college or especially a Mary Jane arrest in college and no hire. Not that the ones he hired were innocent he knew, they were just the ones who never got stopped.

It is important that we socially set up these people in the public eye as heros for the sake of the future. We offer the entire profession the respect deserved by the 10% in hope that in future the best of our children will serve and protect.
 
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How many LE folks participated?

How many other LE folks knew about it and them but looked the other way?


Looks like they have a list

The investigation came to light in January 2024 after FBI agents raided the homes of several officers, Mendez's home and Clear's law office.




APD has since placed 12 officers on leave, 10 of whom have since resigned, retired or been fired as the department conducted its own internal probe into the allegations.
 
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I have been looking for an older movie: "The Take" featuring a pair of NM LEO's on the take. in the near end of the film one says to the other something like: to cover yourself you got to be a good cop.
 
Looks like they have a list

How many, total, over 30 years, are involved who participated or looked the other way? 30 years is an entire generation of dirty cops who've made their way through the ranks. There's way more than what's publicly been released. Way more.

The current APD Chief Medina, was a police officer with APD for 20 years before retiring as commander in 2014 before being appointed Chief in 2020. He said he didn't know anything and was shocked.

Yeah, right, I says.
 
A Crook is a Crook...copied

neurolaunch.com copied:
What drives seemingly ordinary people to cross the moral line and embrace a life of crime? This question has haunted psychologists, law enforcement officials, and society at large for centuries. The enigma of criminal behavior has captivated our collective imagination, sparking countless debates, studies, and pop culture representations. But what lies beneath the surface of those who choose to walk on the wrong side of the law?

I don't think it is that complicated for most people who choose to commit money crimes. It is the desire for perceived easy money. Easy money is attractive to the lazy and the irresponsible. I wrote 'perceived easy money' because the irony is that the money frequently turns out to be anything but easy when the consequences of being caught catch up.
 

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