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[Echo40]

The Appalachian Trail is infamous for these kind of attacks on long distance hikers......................

The smallest gun I carry is a 3" 60-10 w/ a couple of speedloaders.......

At our cabin in the Laurel Highlands of Pa. in the 1960s-80s you never ran into anyone on the mountain....... with everyone having a ATV these days its rare to be on the mountain and not run into someone..... or a group of 10 or more..............

The last time I was in the woods was some 10 years or so near the Youghiogheny River. I recall that somewhere off the trail was the remains of some sort of concrete structure, it was eerily silent in the area which gave me a bad feeling, so I ended up cutting my walk short and turning back.

 

[BAM-BAM]

I don't go int the woods without a gun either. Unless I am hunting I don't carry a rifle, only a concealed handgun. I don't want to let anyone know there is a gun on me. It is not the good guys that I don't want to see the gun.

I have a case strapped to the roll cage of the RZR so if I have a rifle it's out of sight..... it also has water purification and other handy trail stuff.

Evening walks may include some groundhog or Coyote hunting which in Pa. is pretty much 24/7/365 so a rifle is handy ........ when I do have a rifle I tend to take the 3" 60-10 (think micro 686) concealed.

Three handy trail/utility guns....

Ruger 77/357 18" .357 5 rd mag ....... 5.5lbs
Ruger Ranch 18" .22 mag with a 9rd rotary mag..... 5lb.
Ruger American Ranch 16" takes AR Mags.......10 rd standard....6lb.... but I tend to carry with a 5rd mag. with an extra or two 10round in the RZR.

 

[AManWearingAHat]

Yep always bring a gun to the woods. Always.

 

[Doug M.]

Cooper opined a long time ago that one cannot make an appointment for an emergency. I am so rarely outside of my house without at least one gun I could not begin to tell you when I last did so. There are bad people everywhere, in every potential setting, and in every combination of pigment, plumbing, or preference, and one must always maintain situational awareness in order to detect and evade those bad folks.

230 felonies presents a problem or two. The first is, how did he get tied to so many without real consequences? Were the investigations substandard? Did the prosecutors do some stupid stuff? I find it hard to believe that someone can have that kind of indications of being a bad actor without being in custody for very long time.

 

[TTSH]

230 felonies presents a problem or two. The first is, how did he get tied to so many without real consequences? Were the investigations substandard? Did the prosecutors do some stupid stuff? I find it hard to believe that someone can have that kind of indications of being a bad actor without being in custody for very long time.

There has got to be one Hell of a story behind that number of felonies and the perp still walking the streets... or does he just happen to have the world's greatest defense attorney?

 

[ACORN]

The last time I was in the woods was some 10 years or so near the Youghiogheny River. I recall that somewhere off the trail was the remains of some sort of concrete structure, it was eerily silent in the area which gave me a bad feeling, so I ended up cutting my walk short and turning back.

You might be talking about "Dead Man's Hollow" between McKeesport and Boston Pa.
Dead Man's Hollow - Wikipedia

 

[The Big D]

I find it somehow incomprehensible...

...not just for the 230 felony charges, but how can someone serve two (2!) jail sentences (given the 230) by the age of 26?

Multiple failures by Florida judges (prosecutors?)... dunno?

But do know this. I would right now suit up and go to work for Sheriff Grady Judd.

Be safe...be well.

Cooper opined a long time ago that one cannot make an appointment for an emergency. I am so rarely outside of my house without at least one gun I could not begin to tell you when I last did so. There are bad people everywhere, in every potential setting, and in every combination of pigment, plumbing, or preference, and one must always maintain situational awareness in order to detect and evade those bad folks.

230 felonies presents a problem or two. The first is, how did he get tied to so many without real consequences? Were the investigations substandard? Did the prosecutors do some stupid stuff? I find it hard to believe that someone can have that kind of indications of being a bad actor without being in custody for very long time.

 

[flagman1776]

Is there anybody here who thinks there is anything to the reported story that someone had "stolen an engine" from the shooter? I don't believe it at all, I think it was a bogus claim to distract / justify an outright robbery. Or maybe he planning all along to murder them. While the victims were trying to reason with a homicidal maniac as if he were a rational person... he closed the distance. I don't even believe it was a case of mistaken identity.
Was the money to pay for the fast food binge stolen from the victims?

 

[JJEH]

I will NEVER go into the back country, hiking, camping, fishing, grocery store or anywhere else unarmed ever again.

I agree, but aren't we doing this already

 

[misswired]

Unbelievable that something like that happened in a place like Frostproof. It's a tiny little place where everybody knows everybody generally. It is in Polk County, where Grady Judd is the Sheriff. He is a no nonsense lawman who will get to the bottom of it. Google Sheriff Judd's name and read about some of his exploits. If ever there was a modern day Buford Pusser, he is it.

Here is Sheriff Judd explaining another officer shooting.

"Polk County Florida Sheriff - "You kill a policeman it means no arrest...no Miranda rights...no negotiations...nothing but as many bullets as we can shoot into you...PERIOD."
An illegal alien, in Polk County, Florida , who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop, ended up "executing" the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed. A state-wide manhunt ensued.

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the SWAT team, officers opened fire on him. They hit the guy 68 times.

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: "Because that's all the ammunition we had." Now, is that just about the all-time greatest answer or what!

The Coroner also reported that the illegal alien died of natural causes. When asked by a reporter how that could be, since there were 68 bullet wounds in his body, he simply replied: (BEST QUOTE ever) ...."When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die."

 

[white cloud]

From what I read in the story, the 25 yo "ringleader" has had over 230 felony charges placed against him since he was 12.

As I remember the story, the first friend was ambushed and being slaughtered when the other two friends pulled up and were put under fire when they were ambushed.

Why was this person not in prison? 230 felonies might be a clue to someone.

 

[JJEH]

From what I read in the story, the 25 yo "ringleader" has had over 230 felony charges placed against him since he was 12.

I don't know... sounds like either made up or they have never been prosecuted and he was never convicted. The max I have seen is 9 former felonies and at the trial of his 10th felony he was convicted to life in prison.

 

[ContinentalOp]

I don't know... sounds like either made up or they have never been prosecuted and he was never convicted. The max I have seen is 9 former felonies and at the trial of his 10th felony he was convicted to life in prison.

My layman's guess was that these might've been arrest charges, possibly multiple charges for the same crime, that were eventually dropped or pled down to misdemeanors, rather than 230 prosecutions.

But like I said, just a guess.

 

[JJEH]

My layman's guess was that these might've been arrest charges, possibly multiple charges for the same crime, that were eventually dropped or pled down to misdemeanors, rather than 230 prosecutions.

But like I said, just a guess.

Hard to fathom that number.... even misdemeanors. Some charges are enhanceable. But I don't know...

 

[flagman1776]

Here is Sheriff Judd explaining another officer shooting.

"Polk County Florida Sheriff - "You kill a policeman it means no arrest...no Miranda rights...no negotiations...nothing but as many bullets as we can shoot into you...PERIOD."
An illegal alien, in Polk County, Florida , who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop, ended up "executing" the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed. A state-wide manhunt ensued.

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the SWAT team, officers opened fire on him. They hit the guy 68 times.

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: "Because that's all the ammunition we had." Now, is that just about the all-time greatest answer or what!

The Coroner also reported that the illegal alien died of natural causes. When asked by a reporter how that could be, since there were 68 bullet wounds in his body, he simply replied: (BEST QUOTE ever) ...."When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die."

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When an armed and dangerous murderer opens fire on the Police, he has chosen the rules of engagement. He decided not to surrender when he could have. Game over.

 

[ladder13]

Here is Sheriff Judd explaining another officer shooting.

"Polk County Florida Sheriff - "You kill a policeman it means no arrest...no Miranda rights...no negotiations...nothing but as many bullets as we can shoot into you...PERIOD."
An illegal alien, in Polk County, Florida , who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop, ended up "executing" the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed. A state-wide manhunt ensued.

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the SWAT team, officers opened fire on him. They hit the guy 68 times.

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: "Because that's all the ammunition we had." Now, is that just about the all-time greatest answer or what!

The Coroner also reported that the illegal alien died of natural causes. When asked by a reporter how that could be, since there were 68 bullet wounds in his body, he simply replied: (BEST QUOTE ever) ...."When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die."

Gotta love that Sheriff.

 

[Kid44]

No matter what

My layman's guess was that these might've been arrest charges, possibly multiple charges for the same crime, that were eventually dropped or pled down to misdemeanors, rather than 230 prosecutions.

But like I said, just a guess.

No matter what, the guy should have been in jail.

 

[ContinentalOp]

No matter what, the guy should have been in jail.

No argument there.

 

[LCC]

three decades ago, while on a back country fishing trip with my then 10 year old son, we had a dangerous encounter with two armed Charles Manson types that we escaped from by my driving over rough dirt roads at insane speeds, watching their following dust cloud slowly recede until we eventually reached pavement.
Carried illegally on such trips from that point forward until we moved to Oregon and I could legally carry.

The older I get, the more my hand never leaves the grip of my pocket carried LCP when I see anyone the least suspcious looking within 10 yards of me.

 

[Jack Flash]

"230 Felonies"

Well, there are felonies and then there are felonies. Drug possession / sales, property crimes, etc., may not be as vigorously pursued as they should be. IIRC, he only had a couple of felonies that involved violence. Those are probably the ones he went to prison for.

But it makes you wonder, if he got caught 230 times, how many times did he not get caught? Usually the ratio is at least two to one, maybe a lot more (10 to 1? LEOs may know).