Albany County lawmakers talk ammo tracking

[David LaPell]

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news...munition-albany.html

Albany County lawmakers talk ammunition tracking tonight

May 26, 2009 - 5:19 AM

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- A controversial measure involving the sale of bullets is on the agenda of the Albany County Legislature this evening.

The proposed law that would require gun shops to register sales of ammunition. The measure has been condemned by gun proponents as a back-door means to register guns and learn what weapons people have.

Supporters say it's an attempt to close a loophole in state law governing how ammunition is purchased.

Opponents of the law have distributed fliers at guns shops and sportsmen's clubs calling the action "an issue of grave concern."

The law would regulate the storage, possession and sale of ammunition and require dealers to record the caliber, make and model of the firearm for which each ammo purchase was made.

 

[oldRoger]

This is of course another “end-around” the idea is to draft a law that will be upheld by the higher courts which makes gun, ammunition, or components nearly impossible to sell. This plan is to make the record keeping so difficult that you either give up or are always in technical violation of the law. If it could be done it would add substantial cost to the product.
Tens of millions of rounds of ammunition are produced and sold daily. This volume makes tracking nearly impossible and anyone with more than room temperature knows it. The State on for example is unable to track a few million illegal immigrants.

 

[Super38]

What ammo??

 

[7.62foryou]

The proposed law that would require gun shops to register sales of ammunition. The measure has been condemned by gun proponents as a back-door means to register guns and learn what weapons people have.

Don't they already record evry gun bought in NY on the permit used to buy them? Sounds to me more like an excuse to tax ammo to (pay) for this new program. Of course once they start taxing they'll just keep upping the ante until only the rich or nobody will be able to buy ammo.

 

[Spotteddog]

It sounds like a modified extension of the Illinois FOID system. Except the gun shop/range would have to bar code sweep ammo to connect it to your "smart ID" during sale. That would make it pretty easy to disallow out of state direct shipments too. At least without further licensing?

 

[ladder13]

Will it eliminate internet sales? If not, I'll continue to buy on-line.
I may even have to visit the State of those 2 socialist Senators, Leahy and Sanders, to get my ammo.

 

[m657]

Idaho had a 'sign for the ammo' law about 40 years ago. Boxes of 22s for sure. Lots of sheets of paper signed by tons of people buying a box of 22 shells.

Did nothing other than outrage everyone and after a few years the legislature dropped it as a stupid idea after the retailers brought sack loads into the meeting chambers for direct observation.

 

[Birddog2]

Until the Firearms Owner Protection Act of 1986-McClure-Volkmer, federal law required signing for ammuntion.
These "grandstanding" proposals by local governments are stupid and generally, if passed, have no real effect except for those local merchants who will no longer be able to sell ammo since most buyers will just buy in an adjacent county.

 

[Smokester653]

In our area we've had the same type of "proposals" made but they have never passed. One bill proposed by a local Rep. never even made it to the floor. They did'nt even form a committee.

 

[tac803]

When I worked in a gun shop in the early 80's in Erie County NY, people had to sign a book for ammo purchases. They quit doing it because it had NO impact on crime whatsoever.

 

[Dan Cash]

So how did the vote come ouut? Comments, observations?