Ammo thoughts

[PHS327]

Well the FBI conducted a all time record high of 39.7 million background checks in 2020 so either a lot of people are buying guns for the first time or a few gunowners are buying a lot of guns. Regardless of which conspiracy theory you want to believe those guns need ammunition.

Now that the DOD is acknowledging that UFO's exist I think it is aliens buying the guns and ammunition probably in preparation to taking over our country.

Finally, some common sense. But how do you know the aliens want to take over our country? Maybe they just like to shoot.

 

[peterGun]

So the ammo conspiracy is Boomers screwing everybody else?

Think I've heard that tune before.


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[Rpg]

RATS!

You guys have revealed our Boomer conspiracy to corner the ammo market!

I guess we'll have to disgorge our ammo stash to you younger whipper snappers, at prices you determine appropriate of course.

You'll have the Justice Department take anti trust actions against us to break up our conspiracy!

 

[dave1918a2]

Set up at several NOCO gun shows this past year. New shooters galore. Easy to spot by stupid gun handling and stupid questions like where is the safety and They were holding a Ruger LCR or a Glock. How do You load it? Where do the bullets go? It doesn't do that on TV. One dealer had to bring more help just for the 4473's. I really believe there are more new shooters than can be imagined. Thankfully I belong to a members only(+ guest) range. Local indoor range needed more RO's and only those who had vests would work with all the newbies.

 

[germansheperd]

So the ammo conspiracy is Boomers screwing everybody else?

Think I've heard that tune before.


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They are but I've hammered plenty of seniors.

 

[germansheperd]

RATS!

You guys have revealed our Boomer conspiracy to corner the ammo market!

I guess we'll have to disgorge our ammo stash to you younger whipper snappers, at prices you determine appropriate of course.

You'll have the Justice Department take anti trust actions against us to break up our conspiracy!

Nah it's a game I like to play. See when I'm at that Wal-Mart and a Boomer is there trying to buy ammo and there isn't any I say "follow me sir" and walk them out to my car where I have a nice 'pre-situation' amount of ammo. Love when they scream at the price I tell them, then I say "take or leave it". The entitlement Boomers are my favorite. I actually charge them more than a new guy because I figure they have more money.
This is truly the best time to be selling ammo!

 

[alwslate]

Lots of ammo on the shelves. My closet shelves are sagging under the load I never cease to be amazed that many forum members couldn't see this ammo crunch coming and stock up while supplies were plentiful and prices were cheap

 

[alwslate]

They are but I've hammered plenty of seniors.

Is that a fact now? So is that something you're proud of? Don't like us "old farts" huh? You may get to be an old fart yourself some day if you're lucky enough. Better to be lucky than smart

 

[Ugly Hombre]

Seen big time ammo shortages off and on since 2008, people sense a long term famine coming and are storing up buying guns and ammo when they can.

The talk of taxing guns and ammo 30-50 percent created more pressure to buy. Defunding police, and civil unrest did the rest.

It a'int gonna get better- at least for the duration.

Wise squirrel stores up nuts for the winter.

 

[SchemaEnigma]

Is that a fact now? So is that something you're proud of? Don't like us "old farts" huh? You may get to be an old fart yourself some day if you're lucky enough. Better to be lucky than smart

He's obviously trolling.

 

[SchemaEnigma]

Seen big time ammo shortages off and on since 2008, people sense a long term famine coming and are storing up buying guns and ammo when they can.

The talk of taxing guns and ammo 30-50 percent created more pressure to buy. Defunding police, and civil unrest did the rest.

It a'int gonna get better- at least for the duration.

Wise squirrel stores up nuts for the winter.

Not to mention the promise to make interstate online buying of ammo illegal.

 

[germansheperd]

Is that a fact now? So is that something you're proud of? Don't like us "old farts" huh? You may get to be an old fart yourself some day if you're lucky enough. Better to be lucky than smart

It is. Sure am, easy money and free entertainment listening to them cry about the price.

 

[pharmer]

It is. Sure am, easy money and free entertainment listening to them cry about the price.

Ya'know around here the bar is set fairly high for "personal integrity." If'n you were to produce ammo from a "personal factory distributor source" and charged a premium you might get by. Advertising you "stalk the Academy truck" at O'dark thirty to flip it to latecomers.....well......I got nuthin.' Joe

 

[fiasconva]

One thing I noticed during this ammo shortage is that there are businesses all around me that are selling ammo that never sold it before. Must be pretty profitable with a good mark up or something.

 

[geekeye]

and as the boomers and millennials blame each other for the end of the world, gen-x is quietly making piles of all the things....

 

[ddixie884]

Now that you have spilled the beans. I am even more proud of the fact that I have thousands of rnds of ammo and tens of thousand primers and several thousand new Star-line brass. I gave a lot of money for all of this stuff, or so I thought until the prices went crazy a year or so ago.............

 

[Jon651]

Is that a fact now? So is that something you're proud of? Don't like us "old farts" huh? You may get to be an old fart yourself some day if you're lucky enough. Better to be lucky than smart

Better to be lucky than smart? A smart man has a better chance at being lucky than a lucky man has at being smart, I say.

 

[alwslate]

Better to be lucky than smart? A smart man has a better chance at being lucky than a lucky man has at being smart, I say.

I think the OP has to depend on luck rather than smarts

 

[smoothshooter]

A few years ago there was a study that said half the guns in the US were owned by 7.7 million people, 3% of the US adult population and about 12% of gun owners. This group had a minimum of 8 guns and an average of 17.

I suspect the same is true of ammo. A small group is buying and holding a lot of ammo.

That small group must have a lot of people that are using ammo as a lead and brass security blanket. When watching riots on TV sitting on crates of over priced ammo could be comforting.

Most people I know that buy their first gun strictly for security go through a few boxes at the range right after they get it and then the gun rarely gets shot after that. The club I shoot is a little less busy but but not by much. The club is members only and expensive to join so not many new gun owners shoot there. But I doubt they are shooting ammo they bought at today's prices.

I haven't seen anyone admit to buying cases of ammo at 4 times what it was selling for 18 months ago. not even online. But somebody is. I am really curious why. A new shooter buying a few boxes I can see. I shooter that didn't stock up buying a few boxes for a match I can see. But buying cases and cases and not shooting any of it? I gun don't get it.

They are not shooting it because they figure ( with some justification ) that every case they buy could be the last they will be able to get. One or more ammo plants going out of business is a real possibility. Not because of lack of customers, but because tha banks, credit card companies, and insurance carriers are under tremendous pressure from the " woke " crowd and
tech giants to stop doing business with gun and ammo companies.
You can't run a business without insurance. If any of the financial institutions refuse to comply, those who threaten them have the money and political power to do damage through legislation or by boycotts.
Legislation is being drafted as I type this that will remove legal protections from frivolous lawsuits due to misuse of products against gun and ammo manufacturers. If these new laws are passed, or enacted by executive order, all it would take is a lawsuit or two against a company to put it out of business.

I have to admit that this new strategy against the ammo and gun companies is quite brilliant in many ways. They have done permanent damage to the shooting sports, and pretty much shut down almost all recreational shooting for the foreseeable future using the overreaction to the China virus as partial cover.

The days of relatively cheap and plentiful ammo are over.

 

[smoothshooter]

A few years ago there was a study that said half the guns in the US were owned by 7.7 million people, 3% of the US adult population and about 12% of gun owners. This group had a minimum of 8 guns and an average of 17.

I suspect the same is true of ammo. A small group is buying and holding a lot of ammo.

That small group must have a lot of people that are using ammo as a lead and brass security blanket. When watching riots on TV sitting on crates of over priced ammo could be comforting.

Most people I know that buy their first gun strictly for security go through a few boxes at the range right after they get it and then the gun rarely gets shot after that. The club I shoot is a little less busy but but not by much. The club is members only and expensive to join so not many new gun owners shoot there. But I doubt they are shooting ammo they bought at today's prices.

I haven't seen anyone admit to buying cases of ammo at 4 times what it was selling for 18 months ago. not even online. But somebody is. I am really curious why. A new shooter buying a few boxes I can see. I shooter that didn't stock up buying a few boxes for a match I can see. But buying cases and cases and not shooting any of it? I gun don't get it.

They are not shooting it because they figure ( with some justification ) that every case they buy could be the last they will be able to get. One or more ammo plants going out of business is a real possibility. Not because of lack of customers, but because tha banks, credit card companies, and insurance carriers are under tremendous pressure from the " woke " crowd and
tech giants to stop doing business with gun and ammo companies.
You can't run a business without insurance. If any of the financial institutions refuse to comply, those who threaten them have the money and political power to do damage through legislation or by boycotts.
Legislation is being drafted as I type this that will remove protections from frivolous lawsuits due to misuse of products against gun and ammo manufacturers. If these new laws are passed,mor enacted by executive order, all it would take is a lawsuit or two against a company to put it out of business.

I have to admit that this new strategy against the ammo and gun companies is quite brilliant in many ways. They have done permanent damage to the shooting sports, and pretty much shut down almost all recreational shooting for the forseeable future due to the overreaction to the China virus.

The days of relatively cheap ammo are over.