Ammo while carrying for self defense
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I have 3 kinds of SD ammo & I'll list them in order of preference, all .40 S&W -
Speer Gold Dot 165gr. - I've had no problems with it. More available than the rest. Projectile blossoming is very good & is fairly consistent.
Federal HST Tactical 180gr. - a little more expensive than the rest. The shell casings seem to dent a lot easier when loading a mag by hand. Otherwise a tried & tested round for SD. Probably the best SD round because of the consistent projectile opening of twice the diameter of an unfired round.
Hornady Critical Duty 175gr. - Nothing too wrong about it. I bought a box when nothing else was available. From test results I've read it's more designed to go through an obstacle before the projectile opens all the way. I've shot only a few because during the shortage I had trouble finding ammo of any kind & every round went bang & hit my point of aim. Critical Defense is the preferred Hornady SD round.
Speer Gold Dot 165gr. - I've had no problems with it. More available than the rest. Projectile blossoming is very good & is fairly consistent.
Federal HST Tactical 180gr. - a little more expensive than the rest. The shell casings seem to dent a lot easier when loading a mag by hand. Otherwise a tried & tested round for SD. Probably the best SD round because of the consistent projectile opening of twice the diameter of an unfired round.
Hornady Critical Duty 175gr. - Nothing too wrong about it. I bought a box when nothing else was available. From test results I've read it's more designed to go through an obstacle before the projectile opens all the way. I've shot only a few because during the shortage I had trouble finding ammo of any kind & every round went bang & hit my point of aim. Critical Defense is the preferred Hornady SD round.
JWWIII
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MP9c using Remington Golden Saber Bonded 124gr +P
RB211
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Ranger-T's in my 45c
SSGT Pride
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Winchester Lawman (Black Talon remakes in gold)
Doug M.
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Google up Doc Roberts' ballistic testing and recommendations, pick one of the choices for your caliber, fire at least 500 test rounds without malfunction, and drive on.
Most of the development work of the last 20+ years has been in auto-pistol calibers (9m/.357sig/.40S&W/.45ACP) as opposed to revolvers, and there are good choices in each. The difference in performance between good choices in any of those calibers is little if any. A good argument can be made that the cheapest round (typically 9mm) so you can shoot more in training is the winner, and some very savvy people have made that choice. It has also been noted that generally, shooting performance is better with the 9, and since placement is WAY more important than anything else, that also argues for the 9mm.
In revolvers, I tend to carry WC (.38 snubby) and SWC (.38 other than snubby; .41). A revolver in a pistol caliber gets one of the choices from Roberts' recommendations. In 9mm (940), the Black Hills load with the all copper Barnes bullet; gold dots in the .45 ACP, just as with the auto-pistols in that caliber.
Most of the development work of the last 20+ years has been in auto-pistol calibers (9m/.357sig/.40S&W/.45ACP) as opposed to revolvers, and there are good choices in each. The difference in performance between good choices in any of those calibers is little if any. A good argument can be made that the cheapest round (typically 9mm) so you can shoot more in training is the winner, and some very savvy people have made that choice. It has also been noted that generally, shooting performance is better with the 9, and since placement is WAY more important than anything else, that also argues for the 9mm.
In revolvers, I tend to carry WC (.38 snubby) and SWC (.38 other than snubby; .41). A revolver in a pistol caliber gets one of the choices from Roberts' recommendations. In 9mm (940), the Black Hills load with the all copper Barnes bullet; gold dots in the .45 ACP, just as with the auto-pistols in that caliber.
D Binx
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I use 9mm Federal Hydrashok or Speer Gold Dot for my M&P9c
Wolfman-Iraq
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Speer Gold Dot 9mm +P 124 Gr.
Rastoff
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Whatever proves to be most reliable in your gun.
I can say with 100% certainty, it's does not contain the word "Zombie" in it.
You sacrifice any chance you have of being considered a reasonable or thoughtful person in court carrying that ammo IMO.
You sacrifice any chance you have of being considered a reasonable or thoughtful person in court carrying that ammo IMO.
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Cal44
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I've never seen much point in shooting a zombie anyway.
Aren't they already dead?
Aren't they already dead?
Not a gag, just a fairly good marketing ploy. Identical specs, but a green tip instead of red, and a flashier box. Identical price, and more importantly, easier to find, at least around here.
Even if you only bought a few boxes for the "novelty factor", it served the purpose of getting you to buy it and try it. You can always get the 'more conventionally' packaged version later if you want... assuming you can find it.
Rastoff
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In conversations like this we always hear, "This ammo is great for self defense." Really? Just how many people have you shot with it? How many were stopped with one shot?
That may sound comical to many of you, but the question is real; how do you know that ammo is good for self defense?
That may sound comical to many of you, but the question is real; how do you know that ammo is good for self defense?
