And the war is on.

[deadin]

Trump just announced a 12 hour cease fire like it is a victory.
Sounds to me it just gives both sides time to reload.....

 

[TX-Dennis]

The ceasefire agreement is good news, but remember; they have reneged on agreements in the recent past, so . . .

 

[brians356]

So far Trump is playing chess three moves ahead, and Iran is playing checkers. Why would anyone question any particular move at this point? Sit back and learn.
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[biku324]

Hmmm, haven't noticed Iran going after the Greeks after Alexander the Great kicked their butt. Seems a good butt kicking ( like they just got ) just might persuade them to be peaceful for awhile.

Don

If you haven't noticed, you haven't been watching.

-Gaza War - ongoing since 2023
-ISIS Insurgency - ongoing since 2017
-Western Iran clashes, 2016 to present - Saudi proxies PDKI, PJAK, Kovalainen, PAK, Khebat
-War in Iraq - vs ISIS, 2014 to present
-Syrian Civil War - 2013 - 2024
-Afghanistan-Iran border clashes, 2007 - 2023
-Iran-PJAK conflict - 2004-present
-Sistan and Baluchestan Conflict 2004 to present
-Afghan War - 2001-2002
-Khuzestan Insurgency, 1999-2020
-KDPI Insurgency, 1989-1996
-Kamala Conflict, 1984-1991
-Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988
-1979 Khuzestan insurgency
-1979 Kurdish Rebellion
-Iranian Revolution and consolidation, 1979-1983

If you want to check pre-Revolution conflicts you'll need permission from the mods to add post space.

 

[Jimbo41]

There is no reason to think that Iran hasn’t moved some or all of their enriched uranium.
There is no reason to think that Iran doesn’t have an entire facility that we don’t know about, remember that all of the known facilities were once unknown.
And even if they don’t have a facility, they almost certainly have spare centrifuges.
There is no reason to take Iran at it’s word.
The ceasefire os pointless without an agreement, Iran will try to drag out negotiations while moving their program forward.
Trumps legacy will be a nuclear-armed Iran.

Just what I think, based on really limited public information.
Anyone wanna bet a shiny dime that I’m wrong

 

[woodsltc]

If you haven't noticed, you haven't been watching.

-Gaza War - ongoing since 2023
-ISIS Insurgency - ongoing since 2017
-Western Iran clashes, 2016 to present - Saudi proxies PDKI, PJAK, Kovalainen, PAK, Khebat
-War in Iraq - vs ISIS, 2014 to present
-Syrian Civil War - 2013 - 2024
-Afghanistan-iran border clashes, 2007 - 2023
-Iran-PJAK conflict - 2004-present
-Sistan and Baluchestan Conflict 2004 to present
-Afghan War - 2001-2002
-Khuzestan Insurgency, 1999-2020
-KDPI Insurgency, 1989-1996
-Kamala Conflict, 1984-1991
-Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988
-1979 Khuzestan insurgency
-1979 Kurdish Rebellion
-Iranian Revolution and consolidation, 1979-1983

If you want to check pre-Revolution conflicts you'll need permission from the mods to add post space.

Don't see 'em going after the Greeks anymore !! But you should keep researching, maybe you'll find something.

Don

 

[Model19man]

Trump just announced a 12 hour cease fire like it is a victory.
Sounds to me it just gives both sides time to reload.....

You might want to read the terms of the cease fire more closely. The first part is twelve hours, the second part is twelve hours, then the final sentence is the war ends after that.

 

[biku324]

Don't see 'em going after the Greeks anymore !! But you should keep researching, maybe you'll find something.

Don

Perhaps you could direct me to the Iranian peaceful era.

 

[woodsltc]

Perhaps you could direct me to the Iranian peaceful era.

I'm convinced it would be futile on my part.....I'm told some folks still believe the moon landings were a hoax.

Don

 

[UncleEd]

Looking for a quick, end-all victory? Maybe this is it.

U.S. intel probably knows how really effective the bombing was. So do
the Iranians.

Time for assessment.

Could be Iranians are saying, "was this your best shot?"

Home front American jingoism might be in full bloom in some parts.

But beware underestimating a foe even if only one last gasp exists to strike.

Then the tiresome 72 virgins joke might not seem so funny.

 

[DWalt]

So where is the enriched U?

 

[brians356]

There is no ceasefire, there are only statements. Paper is very, very cheap. Soundbites even more so. There will be no ceasefire for a long, long time, not until Iran is out of offensive weapons, leaders, or both.
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[Exaviator]

According to your President it was Iran's last show of might and now they will come to the negotiating table and sue for peace. Unfortunately, as long as the Mad Mullah's remain in power any peace terms will just mean a pause to allow them to regroup. My biggest concern is the whereabouts of the 600 kilos of 60% enriched uranium that was spirited away before the bombing took place and just what it can be used for...

 

[Imissedagain]

So where is the enriched U?

In an Amazon truck?

 

[Doriangray6]

History repeats itself once again and the sheeple are eagerly eating the bait.
"Naturally the common people don't want war. But after all it is the leaders of a country that determine policy and it's always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring at the Nuremburg trials

 

[biku324]

Now what?

However, the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs later posted: "As Iran has repeatedly made clear: Israel launched war on Iran, not the other way around. As of now, there is NO 'agreement' on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards."

"The final decision on the cessation of our military operations will be made later," it added. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...-to-be-phased-in-over-24-hours_6742651_4.html

 

[brians356]

My biggest concern is the whereabouts of the 600 kilos of 60% enriched uranium that was spirited away before the bombing took place and just what it can be used for...

Come on, man. Mossad and IDF know exactly where every Iranian leader, commander, and scientist sleeps and does (or did) his business. They've had lads creeping around inside Iran for many years. There are Iranian sources. They can see every truck and limousine from space. They know where the MacGuffin is, but do we really think they're going to announce that to the world?
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[444 Magnum]

Now what?

However, the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs later posted: "As Iran has repeatedly made clear: Israel launched war on Iran, not the other way around. As of now, there is NO 'agreement' on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards."

"The final decision on the cessation of our military operations will be made later," it added. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...-to-be-phased-in-over-24-hours_6742651_4.html

That's just more Iranian saber rattling and pride. They warned US of pending strikes in Qatar and then denied it later. I agree that Iran just wants the ceasefire to re-group. Peace is not now and has not been their intention.

 

[biku324]

No ceasefire in fact, it seems. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that both Iran and Israel violated the terms of a newly brokered ceasefire, just hours after it took effect. Speaking before departing for the NATO summit in The Hague, Trump expressed frustration with both sides, singling out Israel for launching strikes immediately after the agreement. - Newsweek
Oh, and ISIS is rejoicing, as Iran was countering them.

With Iran weakened by US and Israel, ISIS rejoices and resurges

"We should pay attention to this in our policy discussions," a former U.S. Central Command chief told Newsweek.

www.newsweek.com

 

[s&wchad]

The ceasefire is back on again, for now...

Israel-Iran live: Trump swears on camera as he rages at Israel and Iran over faltering ceasefire

Donald Trump has expressed fury at Iran and Israel, saying both sides have violated a ceasefire agreement only hours after it was agreed. He told Israel to "calm down", later saying IDF warplanes en route to bomb Iran would turn around. Follow the latest on the conflict.

news.sky.com