Another reason not to buy a Ford

[JcMack]

Information gleaned from Second City Cop (Chicago police blog)

Fines by Mail?
You can bet government - especially broke blue state governments - are exploring ways to make this happen:

Ford is trying to patent a way for its cars to report speeding drivers to the police.
A patent application from the automaker titled “Systems and Methods for Detecting Speeding Violations” was published by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) Jul. 18 2024, and was originally filed by Ford Jan. 12, 2023.

In the application, Ford discusses using cars to monitor each other’s speeds. If one car detects that a nearby vehicle is being driven above the posted limit, it could use onboard cameras to photograph that vehicle. A report containing both speed data and images of the targeted vehicle could then be sent directly to a police car or roadside monitoring units via an Internet connection, according to Ford.

And just to make sure you hesitate to buy a Ford again, they're also selling your info to insurance companies in order to raise your rates:

Though some of you may know this, many owners will not, so consider this a "Public Service Announcement".

Ford is now selling your driving data to a company called LexisNexis. This company is a New York-based global data broker with a “Risk Solutions” division that caters to the auto insurance industry and has traditionally kept tabs on car accidents and tickets. However, it turns out that LexisNexis is using your driving habits (acceleration, hard braking, speed and how fast you take corners) and forwarding this information on to insurance companies that then increase your insurance rates.
Remember when corporations weren't trying to be stooges of the government?

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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM 0 comments

 

[Beemerguy53]

The New York Times, among others, has reported on the practice of car companies and cell phone service providers sharing information on customers' driving habits.

Here's what Edmunds recently reported...

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/re...your-driving-data-to-insurance-companies.html

Regarding tracking your speed...

Last year, there was a terrible traffic accident on the Baltimore Beltway, I-695, wherein six construction workers were killed when two cars collided, and one flew over the Jersey wall protecting them and struck them.

Investigators were able to piece together what happened from traffic camera recordings, and were actually able to measure the speeds of the vehicles involved -- 100+ mph -- partially using recorded video from the Beltway's traffic cameras. Both drivers were arrested.

Between traffic cameras, dash cameras, Ring doorbells, and plain old cell phones, anything you do on the road is probably being recorded by somebody. Drive accordingly...

 

[JohnRippert]

Or.....people could just not drive like idiots.

 

[IAM Rand]

As soon as Ford implements any kind of speed detection/reporting will be the day they go out of business. No one will want them. The Greenies already don't want Fords. The rest of us won't buy or drive them just to be "Self reported" to the police.

As far as Ford selling my info, I have declined with them is allowing the sharing of my information. I have also contacted Lexus-Nexus to not sell my info. We will see how well any of that works.

 

[sigp220.45]

If you have your phone with you, it is already telling on you. Several apps, like GasBuddy and most navigational apps, have language buried in the terms of service that no one reads allowing them to report to LexisNexis your driving habits. The biggies are speeding (it knows where you are and what the speed limit is), rapid acceleration, and hard braking. Insurance companies buy this info to determine your rate.

Sending it the cops is another matter, though. I don’t know how they would cite you. The fact your phone was speeding doesn’t mean you were. You could just habitually ride with a bad driver.

The vehicle itself sending the info might get you closer to a citation. Interesting times, these.

 

[16thVACav]

Like I need another reason not to buy a Ford?

 

[BigBoy99]

Just what we need! A vehicle which reports on its self by sending a message to the police. "I've been a BAD car and was driven at 100 mph. Send my owner a ticket."

 

[delcrossv]

 

[Rule3]

When I was working, We used LexisNexius a lot. Scary what info we could find about YOU,


Technology is even more advanced now


As soon as you walk out your door you are being tracked and monitored.

Person of Interest


Was a pretty good show in the beginning but then got a little overboard


Person of Interest (TV Series 2011–2016) - IMDb

 

[UncleEd]

If Ford is indeed going to include suck tracking, you can be sure other automakers will follow suit.

Heeding the old advice of "get a horse" won't do since it will have a data/tracking chip imbedded somewhere within its body.

My advice, go forth into the world naked.

 

[LVSteve]

...and people wonder why I don't have many common apps on my phone. I also have location services turned off. Boy, does that cause some whining when I search on the Web.

 

[Greyman50]

Cuss me and think little of me but bought a new Hyundai. Looked around at several SUV’s and Hyundai came out on top And built in the US. Rated Best by Consumer Reports for 2024. Granted it has so many gadgets and strange functions it’s funny to drive and see and listen all the “ stuff”. Has parking assist radar on four points in front and rear, tells me if “ it thinks I’m to close to the vehicle in front(even when changing lanes) All the comforts are just amazing and its very quiet and has a fantastic ride. Then the 100,000 mile warranty is hard to beat. Be last new vehicle I buy. Now looking for a stock 66-68 Ford pickup…

 

[pantannojack]

I am in favor of slapping down tailgaters, and bright light drivers; But not in this manner.

 

[luvsmiths]

I


Ford is now selling your driving data to a company called LexisNexis. This company is a New York-based global data broker with a “Risk Solutions” division that caters to the auto insurance industry and has traditionally kept tabs on car accidents and tickets. However, it turns out that LexisNexis is using your driving habits (acceleration, hard braking, speed and how fast you take corners) and forwarding this information on to insurance companies that then increase your insurance rates.

Yeah, uh not to bust your bubble, but about every single vehicle that connects to wifi ( think "On Star" for instance) is already selling your info to LexusNexis and a couple others, and have been for some time now.

First thing to do is make sure your car is not connected to wifi- and again, just a for instance is you don't need to subscribe to "on star" for it to be reporting on you.

This isn't just a "Ford Thing" and it is nothing NEW, so DYODD next time instead of listening to "whoever".........who you only got a Very Small part of the "story" from.

Personal Use - Privacy4Cars

Vehicle Privacy Report – Want to know if your car contains personal data?

Carmakers are spying on you — here's how to stop them

 

[pharmer]

Nice thing about being retired is not giving a **** about who tracks what, knows what, thinks what, says what about me. There's a line that forms to the right, the line to go love yourself. Pick a spot, up front for the go-getters, in the middle for the bashful, at the end for the slackers. Separate line for .gov types and sycophants; it's circular so everyone gets a turn as pivot. Ford can pick either line. I ain't owned a Ford since never. Joe

 

[Ματθιας]

If some of you are worried about your mobil device or your keyless transmitter getting/giving signals, get one of the RFID blocking pouches. They are under $25. They work.

 

[jeffrefrig]

Dammit! I’ve been looking to trade my Chevy in for a Ford!

 

[SMSgt]

Gee whiz, what are they going to do in Florida where it is legal to speed when passing on a two-lane road?

 

[DWalt]

A good reason to drive old vehicles that do not incorporate any of those tattle-tale electronic devices. Like I do. But I do carry a cell phone, so someone may be tracking me with it.

Several months ago my car insurance renewed with a whopper of a premium increase. Even though I have only liability and comprehensive coverage. The agent offered me a little decrease in premium If I would allow the insurance company to install tracking devices to send them our driving habits. I told them thanks but no thanks.

 

[NYlakesider]

A good reason to drive old vehicles that do not incorporate any of those tattle-tale electronic devices. Like I do. But I do carry a cell phone, so someone may be tracking me with it.

Several months ago my car insurance renewed with a whopper of a premium increase. Even though I have only liability and comprehensive coverage. The agent offered me a little decrease in premium If I would allow the insurance company to install tracking devices to send them our driving habits. I told them thanks but no thanks.

I do not think my answer would be so nice!