CLP, but SOME have ammonia. Ballistol is good. Others I would try are Wipeout Foaming Bore and SC-14.What's the best non-ammonia product to use in this situation?
CLP, but SOME have ammonia. Ballistol is good. Others I would try are Wipeout Foaming Bore and SC-14.What's the best non-ammonia product to use in this situation?
It's going to be a while, have patience and just wait.I sent S&W my 15-4 back in March before I found out they changed their bluing process. When I received the letter with the cost I decided to go with the bright polish in hopes that I will be happy with the end result.
I called last week and it is supposedly being processed. Waiting each day now to see the charge come through my bank.
CLP, but SOME have ammonia. Ballistol is good. Others I would try are Wipeout Foaming Bore and SC-14.
IMO this should be completely unacceptable! Both products are commonly used for gun cleaning, and they need to find a consumer-friendly solution for the bluing process. Don't 3rd party gunsmiths do (better) bluing jobs all the time without the limitation of not being able to use Hoppe's #9 or ammonia?Do not use Hoppes #9 or any ammonia product on guns blued with the new S&W process. It will turn plum color.
I agree. A gun that can't be cleaned using Hoppes #9 is not acceptable. Not to mention most people don't even know that Hoppes has ammonia. Most start up gun cleaning kits in the sporting goods stores have Hoppes #9. The cleaning kit that I was issued in the police academy was a Hoppes #9 kit.IMO this should be completely unacceptable! Both products are commonly used for gun cleaning, and they need to find a consumer-friendly solution for the bluing process. Don't 3rd party gunsmiths do (better) bluing jobs all the time without the limitation of not being able to use Hoppe's #9 or ammonia?
Did you ever get a price from S&W?S&W has a 19-3 and I'm waiting for my number to come up. It's really an experiment on my part to see how they do. They will give me their evaluation and the cost of the work for my approval. Stay tuned and I will report. They have two basic options, standard blue or high polish.
That's bad to the bone !View attachment 756682
I had this Model 19 refinished by them last year. I'm happy with it. It was rough with a lot of wear. Should have done a before and after.
SITREP: I went with the high polish blue, $283. FedEx says it should be in my hands today. That is exactly 3 months from the day I shipped it to S&W. As usual, Will Report, w/photos. RECON by fire to follow.Did you ever get a price from S&W?
Please post pics!!SITREP: I went with the high polish blue, $283. FedEx says it should be in my hands today. That is exactly 3 months from the day I shipped it to S&W. As usual, Will Report, w/photos. RECON by fire to follow.
My gun show partner took possession of the gun before I could take pictures. I'll get him to send me a couple pics today. It looks pretty good, especially concidering how bad the gun looked before I sent it off.Please post pics!!
I would be very happy with that!
Ditto, that looks great.I would be very happy with that!
Superb job.
G.S.P.? Georgia State Patrol?I have a G.S.P. 28-2 coming home now from S&W. I will make a point of photographing it as well when it arrives.
Yes, GSP Ordered their guns through Paris Dunlap Hardware Co. of Gainesville, GA, shipped March 27, 1972. There were 25 28-2's in the order. I should have it in hand tomorrow. Will report (with photos).G.S.P.? Georgia State Patrol?
BallistolWhat's the best non-ammonia product to use in this situation?
I have a bit of trouble seeing why Hoppes would cause color change to the current blue process. At any rate, Ballistol apparently also includes ammonium oleate which was cited above as being the culprit in the color change. So I do not see how it would be any safer than Hoppes IF ammonia causes the color change.Ballistol
To me that looks fantastic! S&W does some excellent work. I have sent semi-autos and revolvers and they have all come back looking brand new!S&W's current re-blue of a 19-3. They applied NO rework marks.View attachment 777021View attachment 777022View attachment 777023View attachment 777024View attachment 777025View attachment 777026