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hoping you find the cause...please keep us posted
Anyone know anything about anaphylaxis?
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Packard
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And gluten. Even cheese cubes are often packed with flour to prevent them from sticking. And flour is used as a thickening agent on many sauces. And Burger King put wheat flour on their french fries to help them keep crispy--but I think they stopped that.
Gluten intolerance (Celiac) will explain the gastrointestinal issues, but not the allergy symptoms.
See a gastroenterologist.
m1gunner
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Have you considered poisoning from pesticides? Some of the chemicals accumulate in the body, especially in body fat (and don't get filtered out and eliminated by kidneys). Several exposures in a short period of time could gang up on you.
You mentioned several meals prepared in oil, or highly processed. and the olives are particularly suspect. Chemical contamination of foodstuffs at fast food restaurants is not unheard of.
I have had milder but still startling reactions to some nuts exported from China. I am pretty sure it is pesticide residue, especially pesticides banned in this country. The same type nuts from California cause me no reaction.
Please look up "Organophosphate poisoning" and see if it sounds familiar.
BTW, margarine is not as healthy as real butter, in fact it is one molecule away from being pure plastic.
You mentioned several meals prepared in oil, or highly processed. and the olives are particularly suspect. Chemical contamination of foodstuffs at fast food restaurants is not unheard of.
I have had milder but still startling reactions to some nuts exported from China. I am pretty sure it is pesticide residue, especially pesticides banned in this country. The same type nuts from California cause me no reaction.
Please look up "Organophosphate poisoning" and see if it sounds familiar.
BTW, margarine is not as healthy as real butter, in fact it is one molecule away from being pure plastic.
sipowicz
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Please keep a good log of all your intake and keep us posted...hope you find out soon. I emailed your post to a friend of mine who is very up on this stuff since her son has lots of food allergies and can't eat gluten. I will pm you with any info.
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Wow. I hope it's not Organophosphate poisoning. That is rough on its victims. Some of those symptoms are familiar, but I always have severe itching of palms and soles during an attack. (sometimes the itching spreads, but it always begins and ends with the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet)
Thanks to all you guys for the well wishes and suggestions. This has beem a harrowing experience. Thankfully, I have made it through another day without an attack. The allergist gave me some pre-measured Benedryl liquid to keep in my pocket and an Epi Pen.
I know the Benedryl helps decrease the duration and severity of an attack, but I'm really dreading the next one. I don't yet know how well or how quickly the Epi Pen works, but the doctor assured me it was very fast and very effective. Both are with me at all times just like my watch, gun, keys, pocket change, etc.
When the doctor told me "You're damned lucky to be alive." and "You probably wouldn't be here if you hadn't started using Benedryl on your own."; it really stuck in my mind.
This ain't something to mess around with, but we still haven't figured out what the trigger is. The only way is to let another attack happen, then analyze my food consumption log. I'm working to make it easy by having a Boost in the morning, a pack of peanut butter & cheese crackers for lunch (or vice versa), then eating supper with my aunt and uncle. I just don't eat alone. I'm no captain fitness or anything, but I've lost 18 pounds since this has begun about 3 weeks ago.
I know the Benedryl helps decrease the duration and severity of an attack, but I'm really dreading the next one. I don't yet know how well or how quickly the Epi Pen works, but the doctor assured me it was very fast and very effective. Both are with me at all times just like my watch, gun, keys, pocket change, etc.
When the doctor told me "You're damned lucky to be alive." and "You probably wouldn't be here if you hadn't started using Benedryl on your own."; it really stuck in my mind.
This ain't something to mess around with, but we still haven't figured out what the trigger is. The only way is to let another attack happen, then analyze my food consumption log. I'm working to make it easy by having a Boost in the morning, a pack of peanut butter & cheese crackers for lunch (or vice versa), then eating supper with my aunt and uncle. I just don't eat alone. I'm no captain fitness or anything, but I've lost 18 pounds since this has begun about 3 weeks ago.
sipowicz
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I recently developed eczema on my pinkies, right index finger and right knuckles....doctor couldn't figure out where it came from...I tried steroid creams...helped a little...then I gave up milk (since I'm a bit lactose intolerant anyway)...once I got rid of dairy, my fingers got much better.
locapitano
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The epi pen will work extremely fast.
nicky4968
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First, I don't for a moment doubt that you were very, very sick. Someone was watching over you.
I go with food poisoning. I have had a reaction to food poisoning similar to yours withing 20 minutes of eating the contaminated product.
I have had anaphylaxis before. I am violently allergic to seafood. If I accidentally ingest any, the first symptom is an itching in my ear canals. About 3 feet down. Next is an iron band around my chest that stops all breathing unless I force myself to breathe. No more Primatine Mist available, I'll have to get an epi pen.
I go with food poisoning. I have had a reaction to food poisoning similar to yours withing 20 minutes of eating the contaminated product.
I have had anaphylaxis before. I am violently allergic to seafood. If I accidentally ingest any, the first symptom is an itching in my ear canals. About 3 feet down. Next is an iron band around my chest that stops all breathing unless I force myself to breathe. No more Primatine Mist available, I'll have to get an epi pen.
gerhard
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Hey Rawhyde.....about a month ago.....I had a root canal done on a wednesday.(afterwards started feeling kinda achey)..then the following monday...went to my regular dentist to have a crown impression made for the tooth....immeadiately.... from getting out of the chair...I started chilling...by the time I had made it to my car....my hands were shaking so bad...almost couldn't open the door...(and it was raining and cold which didn't help)..since I had taken my wife to work...had to drive over to pick her up...hands shaking..freezing..even tho the heater in car was on 82 degrees and blowing out the vent....called her on the phone....waited outside...got into the passenger seat...turned the heat up higher...she came out..scared her real bad....she drove home....got home under electric blanket on high..had fever of 101.....took some tylenol..she had to give me water thru a straw as I couldnt sit up....about 0200...my fever broke..next morning...went to my doctor....told him ..had the flu....he checked me and said it was from the root canal and dental work.!!!...advised me the mouth is Full of germs...and when the initial root canal was done.....it got into my system...apparently when my dentist "reopened" the tooth....all the germs really entered my system.....my doctor put me on antibiotics for a week...and advised me that from now on.....before i go to the dentist....he will get me started on a round of anti biotics.....(I failed to mention...had heart surgery last April)...anyway....all that drama was from dental work....who would have thought it.??....I had never heard of such a thing ........
Hey Rawhyde.....about a month ago.....I had a root canal done on a wednesday.(afterwards started feeling kinda achey)..then the following monday...went to my regular dentist to have a crown impression made for the tooth....immeadiately.... from getting out of the chair...I started chilling...by the time I had made it to my car....my hands were shaking so bad...almost couldn't open the door...(and it was raining and cold which didn't help)..since I had taken my wife to work...had to drive over to pick her up...hands shaking..freezing..even tho the heater in car was on 82 degrees and blowing out the vent....called her on the phone....waited outside...got into the passenger seat...turned the heat up higher...she came out..scared her real bad....she drove home....got home under electric blanket on high..had fever of 101.....took some tylenol..she had to give me water thru a straw as I couldnt sit up....about 0200...my fever broke..next morning...went to my doctor....told him ..had the flu....he checked me and said it was from the root canal and dental work.!!!...advised me the mouth is Full of germs...and when the initial root canal was done.....it got into my system...apparently when my dentist "reopened" the tooth....all the germs really entered my system.....my doctor put me on antibiotics for a week...and advised me that from now on.....before i go to the dentist....he will get me started on a round of anti biotics.....(I failed to mention...had heart surgery last April)...anyway....all that drama was from dental work....who would have thought it.??....I had never heard of such a thing ........
sipowicz
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Rawhyde, I got this today from my friend who is very up on this sort of thing due to her children's allergies.
"Dave, I will forward to my friend who is. Nutritionist. If she doesn't know no one will but in the meantime he should get some very strong probiotics and drink lots of water with sugar free electolites- I use ultima replenisher from wholefoods. He is going to be very dehydrated. I will let you know what my friend says ASAP"
I'll post as soon as I hear back....
"Dave, I will forward to my friend who is. Nutritionist. If she doesn't know no one will but in the meantime he should get some very strong probiotics and drink lots of water with sugar free electolites- I use ultima replenisher from wholefoods. He is going to be very dehydrated. I will let you know what my friend says ASAP"
I'll post as soon as I hear back....
Thanks a million, Sip.
I had a mild to moderate attack today after lunchtime. My entire intake so far today was a Coke, a pack of Lance Honey Peanut Butter Captain's Wafers around 10 AM, and a Boost Drink at 12 PM. The attack started up with diarrhea. A few minutes later, I had another bout and the itching began on the palms of my hands and soles of my feet. I walked into a co-worker's office, and she said that I looked red in the face and asked if I was OK. I told her that I thought I had an attack in the beginning phases and took 50 mg liquid Benedryl as per my doctor's orders. I decided to give the Benedryl 15 minutes to work and was sitting on ready with the Epi Pen. Within 5 minutes, I could tell a positive difference, and 15 minutes later, I was ok but a little drowsy. I wrote up the entire list of ingredients for everything I ate in a file on my iPad and called in the episode to the doctor's office. I took off a little early from work and went to my uncle's place to hang out for a while. I am beginning to have confidence in the ability of liquid Benedryl to act in a decisive manner against these attacks.
Funny thing is, I've been drinking the Boost for about a week now, and there have been no problems with it until now. I have been eating a pack of Lance Crackers each day as well, but I usually eat the orange crackers with peanut butter instead of these particular ones.
I'm pretty sure it isn't the peanut butter causing this, because I have been eating it all along. I think it is some barely pronouncable trace ingredient in these processed foods that's the cause. I hope I can identify it soon and learn to avoid it, whatever it is.....
I had a mild to moderate attack today after lunchtime. My entire intake so far today was a Coke, a pack of Lance Honey Peanut Butter Captain's Wafers around 10 AM, and a Boost Drink at 12 PM. The attack started up with diarrhea. A few minutes later, I had another bout and the itching began on the palms of my hands and soles of my feet. I walked into a co-worker's office, and she said that I looked red in the face and asked if I was OK. I told her that I thought I had an attack in the beginning phases and took 50 mg liquid Benedryl as per my doctor's orders. I decided to give the Benedryl 15 minutes to work and was sitting on ready with the Epi Pen. Within 5 minutes, I could tell a positive difference, and 15 minutes later, I was ok but a little drowsy. I wrote up the entire list of ingredients for everything I ate in a file on my iPad and called in the episode to the doctor's office. I took off a little early from work and went to my uncle's place to hang out for a while. I am beginning to have confidence in the ability of liquid Benedryl to act in a decisive manner against these attacks.
Funny thing is, I've been drinking the Boost for about a week now, and there have been no problems with it until now. I have been eating a pack of Lance Crackers each day as well, but I usually eat the orange crackers with peanut butter instead of these particular ones.
I'm pretty sure it isn't the peanut butter causing this, because I have been eating it all along. I think it is some barely pronouncable trace ingredient in these processed foods that's the cause. I hope I can identify it soon and learn to avoid it, whatever it is.....
locapitano
Member
Good job rawhyde. We are all rooting for you!!
Definitely save the epi pen for an instance when you are feeling like you are going to black out, stop breathing, can't move etc. Pain and itching is not enough to jab your thigh with a needle. Lol.
Definitely save the epi pen for an instance when you are feeling like you are going to black out, stop breathing, can't move etc. Pain and itching is not enough to jab your thigh with a needle. Lol.
rustysixgun
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Have you considered consulting "Doctor House?" To the best of my knowledge he's never been wrong. LOL.....
Rawhyde, I'm bringing this thread back because it feels a little like an unfinished tale. Did the attacks stop? Did you ever identify what was likely to be causing them?
I see you are still posting, so if problems still exist they must be less serious than a lot of us once feared they might be. I hope you are well, or at least a lot better than back in February.
I see you are still posting, so if problems still exist they must be less serious than a lot of us once feared they might be. I hope you are well, or at least a lot better than back in February.
LouisianaJoe
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My daughter has Celiac. My son has several food allergies. He is allergic to peanuts, all dairy, and all fish. Once he touched a piece of catfish to his lips and did not put it in his mouth. His lips swelled up.
The advice about the food diary is a good one. You can eat something for years and get to a point where you body reacts to it. My son eats only lean meat cooked, not fried. He also eats a lot of veggies. He is 35 now and his total cholesterol is 124.
My daughter found out about her problem at the age of 35. She now eats where gluten free menus are available and does OK unless she ingests something with gluten in it.
If I had the problems that we are discussing, I would try a gluten free diet for a while just to see if it works.
The advice about the food diary is a good one. You can eat something for years and get to a point where you body reacts to it. My son eats only lean meat cooked, not fried. He also eats a lot of veggies. He is 35 now and his total cholesterol is 124.
My daughter found out about her problem at the age of 35. She now eats where gluten free menus are available and does OK unless she ingests something with gluten in it.
If I had the problems that we are discussing, I would try a gluten free diet for a while just to see if it works.
