Anyone notice this issue with their Shield?

[JimC]

My PM9 will not do this...I tried immediately after viewing the video but I knew it wouldn't.

 

[RussC]

More Rounds Needed to loosen up etractor?

I just tried out my Shield and yes my slide will lock out of battery.

I have only fired 108 rounds through my gun. I am going to the range today to knock out another 150 - 200 rounds.

I would be interested to hear from those who have shot 500 plus rounds if the slide will still stay out of battery per video.

Russ

 

[wachuko]

Would be great to confirm that it is a break-in issue and goes away after x-amount of rounds...

 

[Shielded]

Perhaps its only affecting a certain run in the production

 

[JimC]

Perhaps its only affecting a certain run in the production

Whatever it is or the number of pistols affected, I'm confident that S&W will correct the issue.
It is their best interest to do so with a new product that is selling so well.
Until they do, my plans for a Shield are on hold. I have a perfectly good PM9 that will remain my EDC gun.

 

[Helderberg]

I just field stripped mine and just as I thought, the extractor hook & spring are tight and with a round in the chamber it will hang. Without a round in the chamber it is not an issue. If you remove the barrel and slide around up under the extractor you can feel how tight the fit and spring is. This would be a problem to me if it happened with out a round in the path but to me it is just a tight gun that needs more rounds through it. Personally, I would rather have a gun that ejects everything and would obviously loosen up with use to a gun that would go away with use. Ether way, if it continues and I feel it is an issue, I will contact S&W and have it addressed. The gun is just too accurate and concealable for me to throw it out for something I believe will work itself out with more use. Kahr people are willing to accept that the instructions from the manufacture state you need to run 200 or more rounds through the gun to make it reliable and I never understood that. I guess we all have to consider what we find acceptable and stop listening to what others have to say. I for one will give the gun a chance but that is my comfort zone. You need to decide if this is enough to sway you from all the positive comments we have read so far. Just my .02 and I will shut-up now. Do what feel is right for you as it is your life and safety and you are the only one that has to answer to yourself.
Frank.

 

[kris7047th]

Are we possibly making a mountain out of a mole hill ?? My M&P9c does the exact same thing and I have carried it for two years with no issues. But then I carry in Raven (kydex) holsters.

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

I have 4 M&P's, 2 Compacts and 2 Shields. My Compacts are 5 years old, the Shields about 2 weeks....all 4 do the same thing. This isn't uncommon in Semi-Autos, that's one reason to always carry in a good holster that fits the gun so that the slide isn't subjected to any outside resistance that may force it to move out of battery. Both of my Shields are tighter in that area than the Compacts, but the Compacts have a couple of thousand rounds each through them, the Shields only a couple hundred. I have no qualms about carrying my Shield and I really believe this is a non-issue if the gun is handled properly.

 

[Shielded]

I just checked mine and guess what, it does it too, however I think it is because of the overly stiff mags. I have to say the 7 rounder is the hardest mag in a handgun I've ever done by hand, my left thumb still stings as I'm typing this. Here's what I found interesting, when loaded with just 6 rounds it would go into battery, albeit slow & gentle, (without a round in the chamber) and was easier the get the mag to seat, so I think the mag is pushing up with such force as to cause part of the problem. With a round in the chamber it did it with even one in the mag. Just my opinion of course, but there has been a lot of talk as to how stiff the mags are. And I could tell as I put the 7 rd mag in it was really pushing hard up into the slide.This and along with it being pretty tight perhaps this will workout with wear, let's hope so. For those checking this for yourself be safe & I'd use the safety for an added bit of avoiding an oops, or better still snap caps. Also this my be a non issue if one carries in a holster that has really good retention, as the draw would likely pull the slide into back into battery anyway.

 

[kris7047th]

I have 4 M&P's, 2 Compacts and 2 Shields. My Compacts are 5 years old, the Shields about 2 weeks....all 4 do the same thing. This isn't uncommon in Semi-Autos, that's one reason to always carry in a good holster that fits the gun so that the slide isn't subjected to any outside resistance that may force it to move out of battery. Both of my Shields are tighter in that area than the Compacts, but the Compacts have a couple of thousand rounds each through them, the Shields only a couple hundred. I have no qualms about carrying my Shield and I really believe this is a non-issue if the gun is handled properly.

I completely AGREE. If this hasn't been an issue with all of the other M&P's, I doubt that it will be an issue with the Shield. I have to make both of my M&P's do this, it does not happen on it's own.

 

[TeaQue]

I'm pretty sure I can make my full-size do this. I'll check them both tonight.

That being said, I've got over 3k through my full-size without a single failure of any kind.

 

[cornchucker]

My recently purchased 9C doesn't do this. Been comtemplating picking up a Shield when they become available again.

 

[kris7047th]

My recently purchased 9C doesn't do this. Been comtemplating picking up a Shield when they become available again.

My 2yr old 9c does. But it has never done this on it's own. I have to manually make it happen. Eh .. I am really not concerned.

I just can't imagine cramming a gun into a pocket without a holster of some kind. I want that trigger guard covered.

 

[weaverman]

I can make mine do it, too, although it has never done it on its own. I probably have 750 rounds through mine. Never noticed it, and have "shoved" it into a variety of holsters looking for something to use. Really have no concerns it will happen during carry. Nice little piece...love it!

 

[growr]

I own 4 M&P's and cannot MAKE this event happen, nor can I get it to fire unless the barrel and slide are in FULL lock up. I also tested a new Shield in a local store and could not MAKE it do this or fire out of battery.

I am wondering about too much spring tension in the magazine forcing a round up tight against the bottom of the barrel/slide.

The person that shot the video of this problem is a dear personal friend of mine and he is already sending it back to S&W. I wanted to take the magazine apart and nip off one coil of the spring to see if my theory held any water but it is on it's way back to the mother ship.

Randy

PS. I will keep you posted upon it's return from S&W if that is any consulation. In live fire the gun did not mis-behave at all.

 

[Lost Lake]

None of my M&P's do this. This would be a deal breaker for me getting a Shield. On a hard push my 9c comes out of battery in my Mika holster, but it slides right back. If a Shield did that it may not come back. Not good.

 

[macski222]

It's all about the pressure of the mag being in the gun. Put an empty mag in and this can't be recreated.. but I just put a full one in my mp9c and it does lock out of battery. Born on date was end of 2011.. so I don't think it's just limited to older m&p's

Edit: I have about 600 rounds through it

 

[sup]

Even without a mag in mine it still hangs up a little at that same spot.
So i don't think it's a mag issue. Just going to put some rounds threw it soon as i can and see if it loosens up.I would hope there's no need to panic yet. I already sold mine CM9 to buy the Shield. The only think, i wish it had a little bit of a thumb rest but you can't have everything.
I'm sure someone will get to the bottom of this soon.

 

[blkpitbull]

my 9C does this when i shove it into my bianchi slide holster...the tightness of the leather pushes the slide back just alittle and out of battery, but if I leave it like that and draw the gun it will snap back into battery... I just keep my thumb on the end of the slide to ensure it doesnt happen...

 

[Nakanokalronin]

The other forum is over at Glock Talk and a few members are able to make it happen with a full mag & round in the chamber, just a full mag & empty chamber and just a chambered round & empty mag. Empty mag and empty chamber does not cause this.

In my original link, there is a user or two with a few hundred rounds through their Shield with this still happening. Someone on this forum must have at least 500- 1,000 rounds through one by now that can confirm if it just needs breaking in. ETa: Okay, I see some do have at least 500-1,000rds through a Shield.

I've had some guns that will hang up a tad when chambering a round but after it's chambered, I can ease the slide back as much or as little as I want, let go and the slide closes fully.

I reholster all striker fired guns and guns without slide locks with my thumb on the back of the slide so I doubt this would ever happen with me. Hopefully enough people call S&W about this so they can do a minor adjustment somewhere and nip it quickly.

In all honestly, this is next to nothing when compared to real problems many other companies have had with their micro 9mm and 380 offerings.