Apex Trigger?

[carlson1]

I just bought a M&P Compact 2.0. I hear a lot about the Apex Trigger. Do you have pros or cons and is it worth the money? I never have been one to worry about a trigger.

 

[Shield9mm]

yes it is worth the money, pros: better trigger usually lighter, crispier, short OT/reset. cons:the price.

 

[Ranger17]

I guess my question would be, have you shot the new 2.0 yet to see what you think about its setup first?

I've never changed any of my MP's, other's here have made the switch to Apex; all personal taste. But i'd send some rounds thru any gun first to get a feel for it before deciding to change out anything.

only my .02

 

[ultratec00]

Are you referring to the Apex kit or just the trigger assembly? If you are referring to the Apex trigger itself, that's personal preference. I will say the over-travel stop is more solid on the Apex. In the stock M&P trigger the over-travel stop is that little tab at the bottom of the hinged lower. It contacts the stop built into the floor of the trigger guard.

The Apex trigger is one piece construction, not including the safety disconnect that can be removed if one is so inclined. The trigger body contacts the frame for over-travel. It's more solid and over-travel can be adjusted through the trigger bar. Mine are set up to break towards the back with only slight over-travel.

Not being a fan of the glock trigger type, I still decided to try a polymer Apex trigger on one of my M&P 45s for the reasons above. The polymer can typically be found for ~$40. The pull is different than the glock and the safety tab is not as noticeable. The more I shot it, the more it grew on me and now all my M&Ps have the Apex trigger. All my M&Ps, except the Shield 45 have the apex internals as well.

As always, YMMV and it is personal preference. If you are curious, pick up a spare trigger bar and the polymer Apex trigger and give it a try.

 

[Asltrfl]

The question is for 2.0 compact. I woud for sure spend the extra and get the aluminum trigger, it is awesome and a total game changer. Go to Brownells and get the apex "hardened sear" sear as well. These are the only two parts you will need. Leave factory springs and internals, youl will get an incredible 3-4 lb crisp trigger. If too light for your liking, install sear apex sear spring included with trigger. Search threads, all part #'s are available for 2.0 compacts. Search web / ebay for best deal on trigger only (comes with spring).

 

[catcus-jack]

I would not waste my money.Mine is fine as it is.

 

[NewToGuns17]

I like the trigger kit on my 2.0 full size. The two main reasons I like it are because it's wider than the stock one (aluminum) and if your finger is too high on the stock trigger our not enough off your finger is on the trigger the hinged design won't straighten enough for it to clear the stop. With the apex design its safe but easier to manipulate. The smoother trigger and more crisp break is just icing on the cake.

 

[OKFC05]

I prefer my students to shoot the gun stock for awhile, and then modify it later if they choose. The internet wisdom that the APEX "makes the gun more accurate" is false, but it can make the gun easier to shoot, particularly if one tends to yank the trigger.

 

[NewToGuns17]

I prefer my students to shoot the gun stock for awhile, and then modify it later if they choose. The internet wisdom that the APEX "makes the gun more accurate" is false, but it can make the gun easier to shoot, particularly if one tends to yank the trigger.

I agree. I just like the ergonomics of it more than anything. If s&w would put a wider trigger in, I would enjoy it as is.

 

[Samsn1]

Long story short for the 2.0 the regular action enhancement kit (aek) trigger system cleans up the uptake, break, and reset. The forward set sear and flat faced trigger combo adds flat faced trigger for to enhance to leverage the forward set sear provides and increases the lop because it's flat. For me I went with the flat faced because the factory trigger breaks too far rearward for me. I shot it ok but didn't like the break point.

 

[zephyr]

I found the stock trigger to be really good on my 2.0C and shot it for around 1,000 rounds. Found a good deal on an APEX DCAEK and installed it. Wow, turned a good trigger into a great trigger! Not just the break but the whole finger to trigger interface is much more comfortable to me. Put another 1,500 on it since and it is staying in.

 

[ultratec00]

fyi: that is adjustable via the trigger bar/loop regardless of what trigger (stock/Apex) you are using.

For me I went with the flat faced because the factory trigger breaks too far rearward for me. I shot it ok but didn't like the break point.

 

[NewToGuns17]

fyi: that is adjustable via the trigger bar/loop regardless of what trigger (stock/Apex) you are using.

Not on the 2.0. There is no loop

 

[carlson1]

Thanks for all of the great information. I think I will keep shooting it and revisit this thought after about 1,000 rounds down range.

 

[ScaryWoody]

I put an Apex sear in my pistol. Big difference in break and reset. It's hardened steel and you can really feel it through the trigger. It dropped the pull weight down a good bit. I don't have a trigger scale. I added a heavier Apex trigger return spring to bring the weight up. I was getting double taps with the lighter weight. I'm more used to a 5.5-6 lbs pull.

 

[SurielXV]

I just had one installed at my LGS yesterday. I am going to pick it up today after work. I had the flat faced trigger shoe and the duty/carry sear kit installed. I am looking forward to taking it to the range this weekend, probably sunday gunday

 

[bad2006z71]

The FSS kit with the flat trigger and stock TRS is the best feeling trigger in the M&P I have every felt. It's expensive but worth it. At the very minimum, all my m&p's got an aek polymer trigger as the hinged trigger sucks donkey butt.

I have only dry fired the 2.0 and while it is better than the 1.0, it is not that impressive to me.

Then again tuned 3.5lb-4lb 1911 triggers is what I'm used to.

 

[kitten_frenzy]

I always hear about how much better the FSS is over the DCAEK.
Is the only difference the amount of pre-travel removed and where the trigger breaks? Any difference in the break itself?

 

[Venenoindy]

I just bought a M&P Compact 2.0. I hear a lot about the Apex Trigger. Do you have pros or cons and is it worth the money? I never have been one to worry about a trigger.

Apex makes a great trigger, I suggest to invest on learning to properly use the trigger before changing anything. I speak from my own experience as I can shoot a stock 2.0 better than some of my guns that cost 3 times more with trigger jobs.

 

[fauja108]

I really like the Apex over the stock (sorry haven't shot the 2.0 yet). The Apex trigger is much less gritty, has a smoother pull, a more consistent wall, and a crispy (opposed to squishy) break. If you can feel a difference like that, or have a preference in that regard, then go for the Apex.

It's not going to make you more accurate if that is what you are after... only good training will do that. At the end of the day, with good training you should be confident shooting any gun with any trigger. But when you have the option to pick a nicely honed tool over a rough dull one, which would you choose?