are mp sport 2 rifles sub moa capable ?

[snm8510]

Just like text messaging, people take stuff the wrong way, it's bound to happen because you can't fully get somebody's tone via text only. I'm pretty confident everybody here means well and means absolutely no offense as everybody here seems to be friendly and get along great (it's a firearm message board after all, we know how to carry ourselves around others), but it's just their style that's taken the wrong way at times. I've had a few of those experiences as well, but can't even tell you the names because it's just text and I don't want to jump to any conclusions so I brushed it off.

 

[otisrush]

I was able to get this this morning with my Sport 1 and some reloads. I'd like to tighten it up a bit more but I think it's promising.

I guess the point is that the Sport, IMHO, does really well for such an economical rifle.

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[Rastoff]

That is a good group with this rifle and at that distance.

 

[schaferc]

I was tagging a golf ball at 300 yards at our outdoor range. Very fun to say the least.

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[Rastoff]

I was tagging a golf ball at 300 yards at our outdoor range.

Wow, that's amazing shooting. What kind of scope do you have?

 

[wayne2356]

I dont know about sub MOA's but at 100 yds with my Eotech co-witnessed with my irons.... I feel comfortable that a paper target doesnt have a chance

 

[jimbo728]

Yes

Off the bench , 100 yds, M&P 15 Sport 1/8 5R .
Black Hills 69gr HP Matchking.
Just installed CMC 3.5# trigger and used a Nikon P223 3x9x40
at 9x.
So, yes, the Sport is sub MOA capable.
Jim

 

[jimbo728]

A little better shot.
Jim

 

[McE]

My M&P15 shoots exactly to POI every single time regardless of ammo.

 

[Rastoff]

A little better shot.
Jim

Can you send me a larger picture of that target? [email protected] I'd like to measure it with the software.

If you can, take another, but move the ruler a little further from the group. I need the ruler for a measuring standard, but it's easier if it's about 1/4"-1/2" away from the group.

That's a really good target.

 

[jimbo728]

Thanks Rastoff.
I have to wait untill someone with a cam comes over. Im old and living in the stone age.
That was the first time I shot the Black Hills in the Sport.
That ammo has been only used in a Savage.
I estimate a little under 1/2" center to center.
Will magnify and email, may be useful.
Jim

 

[tcon]

Nice small group jimbo. Ruler is blurry but that's a 1/2" group unless those three cartridges laying beside it are 30-06. Gonna try some of that Black Hills Matchking stuff.

 

[Rastoff]

OK Jim, this is the best I could do with that horribly grainy, low resolution picture:

Still, even if it's off due to not being able to read the ruler precisely, it's an amazing group for a Sport. Less than 1/2MOA is truly the best group I've seen from a low dollar rifle with a fairly low dollar scope.

Great shooting!

 

[C J]

Gonna try some of that Black Hills Matchking stuff.

I haven't had my AR long enough to know these things but my Savage varmint rifle loves Black Hills Matchking loads. They are far better than anything else I've shot through that rifle. Of course that could be rifle specific but still - at least one rifle loves the stuff. I buy it by the case just to have plenty around. I think I have right at 2 cases of it right now. That isn't a lot for an AR of course but I bought it for a single shot varmint rifle. I thought I almost had a lifetime supply for that rifle. Things have changed somewhat though since I bought an AR.

 

[jimbo728]

Knowing I might expect to shoot another like that will probably make it more difficult. I seem to shoot my best when my expectations are low. When I shot the Black Hills, I was more interested in knowing where the 69gr bullets hit with a 55gr zero dialed in. Im surprised they did not shoot high.
Those 3 shots sure did make my day. The first thing I thought of was the OP`s original question.
Thanks, Rastoff for the calculus.
Jim

 

[WNC Seabee]

Personally, I think a 2 MOA group using PMC is pretty good. Get yourself some good ammo from Black Hills, Hornady, or other manufacturer known for quality, accurate ammo and give it another go.

This is spot on.

PMC is good plinking ammo, but not the best indicator of your rifle's potential. If you must use bulk/inexpensive, try some Wolf Gold.

If you really want to test potential accuracy, get some good ammo.

 

[jimbo728]

Shot the Black Hills 69 gr again today at 100yds.
This time just under 3/4" It was a pleasure being able to back up
the first trial with that ammo in a Sport.
I did adjust W&E but over did it a little on windage.
There`s always tomorrow.
Jim

 

[C J]

Shot the Black Hills 69 gr again today at 100yds.
This time just under 3/4"

Which version of Black Hills ammo are you using? I get better results from the reloaded stuff they sell if you can believe that. I don't know why but I have always had better luck with it. Specifically I like the 69 gr. SMK loads or the 75 gr. loads with the same bullet.

 

[caleb4387]

I'm glad to here they actually shoot that well as I plan to get one soonish...I want mine with iron sights though...its gonna be a house gun....may be in the future a red dot.

 

[jimbo728]

Which version of Black Hills ammo are you using? I get better results from the reloaded stuff they sell if you can believe that. I don't know why but I have always had better luck with it. Specifically I like the 69 gr. SMK loads or the 75 gr. loads with the same bullet.

CJ, The ammo I shot in the Sport is the factory load.
I am in agreement with you that their reloaded ammo shoots better. That has been the case in my Savage anyway. I have some on hand and will buy more. Both .223. It`s expensive, but worth it.
The factory stuff I have left is going to be saved for the Sport.
I dont know if I dare shooting the blue box stuff in the Sport because if it does shoot better in it, I might faint.
Jim