Auto Start Stop

[steelslaver]

Before I bought a new car I could completely rebuilt and repaint one of my Lincoln town cars and have lots of cash left for gasoline. But, then neither of them need rebuilt and I can always find another one with low mileage for under 5 grand

Same goes for my Ford Heavy Duty with 7.3 powerstroke, except the prices for those id going up not down. I could sell mine with 260,000 miles on it for way more than I paid for it with 150,000 on it. A new motor would be 5K a tranny 4K axle and springs rebuilt maybe another 5K, paint 3K. So 18 K for basically a new truck. But, as I drive it less than 5,000 a year it will probably last as long as I do. I can hook my 26 ft camp trailer on it and then attach my ATV trailer behind that and go down the road at 70mph. I do have to kick it out of overdrive going up the long hills.

 

[glowe]

I have a 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee and bought a plug-in fix when the vehicle was new. Could not have been easier and has performed perfectly for 7 years running. It came from a company that specializes in defeating this feature. Autostop Eliminator provides kits or plug-ins that are made to override this feature. Check out your brand for details.
Autostop Eliminator - Disable The Auto Start Stop Feature

 

[Doug M.]

We had the system in a car we rented a few years ago. Never bothered me. As for the reduced cylinder use such as described, remember the most of the power you use is for achieving road speed. Once there, holding speed under most conditions takes relatively little power.

On the other hand, a sun/moon roof is a HELL NO. As coroner, I have seen a cute of nasty wrecks in which the sun roof contributed to fatalities.

 

[Telecaster]

We had the system in a car we rented a few years ago. Never bothered me. As for the reduced cylinder use such as described, remember the most of the power you use is for achieving road speed. Once there, holding speed under most conditions takes relatively little power.

On the other hand, a sun/moon roof is a HELL NO. As coroner, I have seen a cute of nasty wrecks in which the sun roof contributed to fatalities.

How so? Now I’m curious. I have no dog in that hunt, just wondering how it contributed.

 

[Doug M.]

Structural weakness in rollovers, and an improperly used seat belt allowing the decedent's head to contact the pavement and be scraped. They are also a security fail, making too easy to see into the car and also too easy to break in.

 

[Magnum_PI]

They are idiotic and from a mechanics standpoint (I know my way enough around cars enough, but I'm not a "mechanic" by trade), I think they're absolutely pointless green hobgoblin I'm saving the world because my car dies at stop, lies...

I think they're burdensome, annoying, pointless, and will do more harm then good. When I rent rentals for work, it's a pain because they all have it.

Further, with the way of the world today, I don't want to have some fools trying to "jack my ride" and I go to take off and the car has to start up for me to make a smooth get away. Just plain ignorant designs...

I don't like a lot of "nanny features" (as I refer to them) on cars.

When I upgrade in the future, God willing, I find a car that won't have it! My current does not.

 

[vt_shooter]

My new car has it too, and I hate it. I've developed a mental checklist of buttons to push in sequence every time I start the car, one of the buttons is of course the button that turns off auto start/stop for that trip. The government truly is beating the snot out of us in their beliefs that it will help the environment, things like dishwashers that are so efficient with water usage that you're left with a stinky dishwasher because they don't use enough water to rinse. It's maddening.

 

[Telecaster]

I have a 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee and bought a plug-in fix when the vehicle was new. Could not have been easier and has performed perfectly for 7 years running. It came from a company that specializes in defeating this feature. Autostop Eliminator provides kits or plug-ins that are made to override this feature. Check out your brand for details.
Autostop Eliminator - Disable The Auto Start Stop Feature

That looks promising; doesn't connect to the OBD port. Available for Subarus, which I'm considering.

 

[GypsmJim]

Those morons at Road & Track Magazine and the Society of Automotive Engineers seem to think it does...but what do they know?

Automatic Start-Stop Tech Saves More Fuel Than You Think

Auto Stop-Start Fuel Consumption Benefits

I call BS on the articles. The printed media is controlled to feed the public with whatever they want us to see.

First of all, the one story references NY City. Wholly Mackeral, the idling time driving on Manhattan streets surely will affect the data.

Show us data for combined city / highway driving like many of us encounter.

Secondly, as a car guy I have little respect for C&D.

Just my biased opinion, and I don't know ****.

 

[slickracer]

My 2021 Chevy Traverse RS has it but does not have a button to disable. Bought a $10 doodad on Amazon that plugs inline with the hood switch. Works perfectly.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I have a new Hybrid Toyota Highlander and am not sure if it has that feature or not. Haven't really paid attention as it's very quite anyway. I don't understand the irritation over such a feature unless it's just an excuse to bellyache about new things. But then I watch films for enjoyment, rather than to spot gun errors.

GEEZ.......WHERE YA BEEN?

Personally I like V8's.......Horsepower & acceleration ........No wimpy 4 bangers that shut off everytime you stop.

I was raised in the good ol days.........Not in this age of sissies and man buns.

 

[WR Moore]

The key word in your comment above is "potential"...

I loved my British sports cars...but I sure wouldn't want to go back to driving one every day!

There's an old story about how British sports cars have two seats so you can take your mechanic along on trips (former Spitfire owner)

About "potential". That's a one word summary of "if it can go wrong, it will." Unfortunately, the AS&S is pretty much needed to meet the fuel consumption goals on the mandated test course. Wonder if you can pull fuses to kill the AS&S & active cruise control? My late son's Explorer seems to have off switches that stay off until you reactivate.

ETA: I'm old enough to remember the safety switch that wouldn't let you start your car until the seat belts were fastened (1974). Enough people got hurt because they couldn't escape attackers that the concept got quickly killed. Unfortunately, I expect that "saving the earth" matters more than people, so we probably can't eliminate the AS&S requirement. After all, you can resolve that concern by going electric.

 

[Greyman50]

Yesterday and today I figured out how to turn off, disable most of the “ gadget” functions on the Santa Fe. Stupid SST gets turned off every time I start it. Will ask the service manager how to disable it when it goes in for first service.

 

[Model52guy]

My son works at AutoZone. Sells a lot of batteries and starters to the ‘auto stop start” people.

 

[Skeet 028]

Just a question..Is it not illegal to disable safety or fuel enhancing gadgets on vehicles? At least by dealerships? I tried to have the seatbelt alert clanger annoying buzzer/bell turned off on my Subaru Outback. They would not do it as it is a required safety feature...Have a pacemaker that is annoyingly under the Seat belt strap...got a letter from my doc about not wearing the seatbelt over my shoulder.....Hate that d*** buzzer thing...Don't particularly like the seatbelts either. Every cop I see stops me for seatbelt violations

 

[LVSteve]

Yesterday and today I figured out how to turn off, disable most of the “ gadget” functions on the Santa Fe. Stupid SST gets turned off every time I start it. Will ask the service manager how to disable it when it goes in for first service.

Let us know how that goes. I suspect you will be wasting your breath.

 

[TX-Dennis]

Just a question..Is it not illegal to disable safety or fuel enhancing gadgets on vehicles? At least by dealerships? I tried to have the seatbelt alert clanger annoying buzzer/bell turned off on my Subaru Outback. They would not do it as it is a required safety feature...Have a pacemaker that is annoyingly under the Seat belt strap...got a letter from my doc about not wearing the seatbelt over my shoulder.....Hate that d*** buzzer thing...Don't particularly like the seatbelts either. Every cop I see stops me for seatbelt violations

I know there's a way to disable it on Fords.

Ah looks like the Outback can be disabled as well.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iSvjIoo41Q[/ame]

 

[LVSteve]

Just a question..Is it not illegal to disable safety or fuel enhancing gadgets on vehicles? At least by dealerships? I tried to have the seatbelt alert clanger annoying buzzer/bell turned off on my Subaru Outback. They would not do it as it is a required safety feature...Have a pacemaker that is annoyingly under the Seat belt strap...got a letter from my doc about not wearing the seatbelt over my shoulder.....Hate that d*** buzzer thing...Don't particularly like the seatbelts either. Every cop I see stops me for seatbelt violations

Does your state not allow medical exemptions?

 

[Greyman50]

Let us know how that goes. I suspect you will be wasting your breath.

What the heck, will at least ask. There is a method to access the computer and if push comes to shove will get my Grandson that is in IT to “ fix it” when he is here. Have buddies with auto repair that can also access the computer.

 

[WR Moore]

I suggest that addressing medical issues be brought to the attention of your political representatives. I'd expect that such an issue never occurred to those who crafted the requirement. I'd hope that a certified copy of your doctor's letter would help you out in traffic court.

The dealership isn't gonna do anything, it'd create massive liability. When the seat belt sensor in my folks 1974 Dodge finally died, I checked with the local dealership about replacing it. They weren't sure they could get the part and it was insanely expensive. The service manager walked me around a corner and told me they could just eliminate it, but there'd be no record that they did it. Went with that. I just now wonder who pocketed the cash for that deal, no service ticket.

I'd think there's a code monkey somewhere that could kill it, the question is how many other code lines might be tied to that one? Again, liability rears it's ugly head-unless you can find a "black hat" code monkey that's both good and trustworthy.