Barred from concealed EDC at home

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#1, having a backup gun makes a lot of sense to me because if your primary gun goes down for any reason (fails during a trip to the range requiring a trip to the gunsmith) or you need to switch to another one because the one you're using has failed in the middle of an actual confrontation, NOT having it would be bad. 2nd, just because someone you live with has one doesn't mean it's yours. It's theirs and it's their responsibility to maintain control over it at all times including knowing where it is and preventing anyone who has not been expressly authorized to use it from doing so. Therefore, If you're going to have a backup gun, it can't be someone elses, right?

Last but not least, I've read about people who will EDC at home rather than hope they can get to the room with the gun in it in time if one (or more) assailants breach your windows or door, or (even more silly) hide one in every room. A full sized sidearm for OWB EDC at home isn't comfortable or always suitable (i.e., if you have company), so some people IWB EDC at home. Even if you might have a full-size firearm locked up bedside for when you aren't wearing it (sleeping in bed).

Do you? If so, how did you convince the person or people you live with the reasoning behind doing this?

I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment, and like they're being policed in their own home. Reactions that struck me as very weird. I got questions like, "how many guns are enough?"

At the end of the day, while I am gonna have a spare, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll follow them. But I was just shocked at the response my proposal to EDC at home received... We both have one, we've both gotten training, visit the range from time to time. I didn't think this was going to be that strange of a thing to want to discuss, but the reaction was pretty angry so I just wanted to share my story here and find out if anyone has had a similar experience and if they've ever come around?

What if your husband told you, "if you carry all day at home, I'm moving out."? Or wife for that matter?
 
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I personally don't feel the need to carry inside my house, so the conversation has never come up. I have, however, had a 380 in my front pocket if I've been outside for a period of time after dark, sitting on deck etc. My wife is ok with that, but then again we're too old to try and tell each other what to do. Good luck with your situation.
 
I slip an LCP in my pants pocket when I get dressed in the morning and it stays there unnoticed like my wallet till I go to bed. Really not much to ponder or otherwise justify beyond that.

I'm in and out of the house a lot during the day. Why would I bother to disarm myself every time I enter the house? All that would accomplish is something else to forget when I walk out the house again. Other than talking to you fine folks on the subject, the fact that I'm carrying really doesn't cross my mind through the day while out and about or snoozing on the couch.

That said, I've seen plenty of discussion from people who think carrying a gun inside the home is like suffering some type of DEFCON alert paranoid condition. If carrying a gun puts them at such unease then they probably shouldn't.
 
I pocket carry a J frame and no one has noticed in three years. Not my wife, not my friends, not even an LE friend I have coffee with some mornings. And that coffee place has multiple LE people most days.

My view is a concealed weapon is one that no one but you knows about.
 
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show them the news article about home invasions .. seems to be in the news every week !! happening even in small sleepy farming towns ..

Last week man shoots 3 in home invasion during the day .. your home isn't the safe place it once was !! There has been 4 in the last year within 20 miles of me .. one an elderly man was kidnapped and killed ..

I carry every waking hour and then its on the table within a foot of me when sleeping ..

Paranoid ?? No PREPARED !!
 
You need to start with a logical threat assessment....what are the "odds"...the need to be armed 24/7..... varies for each of us...... IMHO .....

I live in "the Burbs of the Burgh"..............a very low crime area... do I carry 24/7/365 ????? ....no. when I'm "out and about" ..... yes.... well to be honest probably only 98-99% of the time. At home; unless I'm in the shower I can be armed in................... fast!!!!

My wife has her concealed carry permit...... 10 years now... and has never said a word about my guns or concealed carry in ....... about 26/27 years of dating and marriage ........
 
I strip off the gun as soon as I get home. If I felt a need to carry in my own house, I'd move. (Yes, I know the guy shot three people with his AR. I doubt he was wearing it around the house)

I know other folks may be in a different situation, and may have a need to carry in the home. Or just want to, for whatever reason. But its not for me, and unless you have a really pressing need to carry a gun in your jammies maybe you should consider the feelings of others you live with. Or choose to live alone.

I suspect I will be in the distinct minority on this, though.
 
Sounds like you've got a lot going on there. Assuming you wish to keep the relationship, a cooling off period without raised voices and ultimatums might be in order. Afterward, a negotiated settlement to arrive at a compromise ought to be possible.

We live in a very safe area, and it's just the two of us. We don't carry at home, but our carry's are usually at arms length and never more than two steps away. We both arm when there is a knock at the door, or to go outside.

What makes sense and works for us though is irrelevant for your situation though. Good luck.
 
dlombard said:
#1, having a backup gun makes a lot of sense to me because if your primary gun goes down for any reason (fails during a trip to the range requiring a trip to the gunsmith) or you need to switch to another one because the one you're using has failed in the middle of an actual confrontation, NOT having it would be bad. 2nd, just because someone you live with has one doesn't mean it's yours. It's theirs and it's their responsibility to maintain control over it at all times including knowing where it is and preventing anyone who has not been expressly authorized to use it from doing so. Therefore, If you're going to have a backup gun, it can't be someone elses, right?

Last but not least, I've read about people who will EDC at home rather than hope they can get to the room with the gun in it in time if one (or more) assailants breach your windows or door, or (even more silly) hide one in every room. A full sized sidearm for OWB EDC at home isn't comfortable or always suitable (i.e., if you have company), so some people IWB EDC at home. Even if you might have a full-size firearm locked up bedside for when you aren't wearing it (sleeping in bed).

Do you? If so, how did you convince the person or people you live with the reasoning behind doing this?

I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment, and like they're being policed in their own home. Reactions that struck me as very weird. I got questions like, "how many guns are enough?"

At the end of the day, while I am gonna have a spare, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll follow them. But I was just shocked at the response my proposal to EDC at home received... We both have one, we've both gotten training, visit the range from time to time. I didn't think this was going to be that strange of a thing to want to discuss, but the reaction was pretty angry so I just wanted to share my story here and find out if anyone has had a similar experience and if they've ever come around?

What if your husband told you, "if you carry all day at home, I'm moving out."? Or wife for that matter?
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This will not get better and there will be mission creep into other things.
 
My wife is an adult. I don't issue orders or edicts. I can not stand the resulting laughter. I can ask most anything.
Reality is that the danger of home invasion is small. If it happens, the damage can be unfixable. The risk of him moving out is ???. You are the only one to decide this. Not going to try.
 
FWIW, in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, a gun is either locked up in a tamperproof container or under your direct control, or you are breaking the law. In other words, EDC or in the safe. It's for the chillun. Which do you think I do?

BTW, while I do not approve of telling other people how to store their guns inside their homes, particularly when there are no chillun in the house, I actually have no problem with following this law. It really does seem to me to be the best way to do things.

Obviously, the thing just stays in my pocket (or belt holster), and it is out of sight and out of other folks' minds.

Not sure how to advise you. In my case, the law could have been my excuse, but my wife was not giving me a hard time, anyway. A husband worrying about a wife with a gun ordinarily would seem to me a lot odder than a husband worrying about a wife without a gun.

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"WHAT ARE THE ODDS?"

.0001% odds are too high! You could still be 100% DEAD!!!

Shake the cobwebs out of your noggin. NOWHERE is totally "safe" anymore, if it ever was.

I generally apply my "5% Rule" to all humanity no matter what topic is being considered. I tend to trust that 5% with just about anything... and then I'm not too sure about them, either.
 
Basically the approach took was, "this is your home too, but I'd like to do this because I drew a conclusion based on these ideas. What do you think?" I was trying to provide the opportunity to discuss the matter rather than discover it after the fact. I was hoping a year and half later--after going to training together and practicing together, it wouldn't have seemed like such a fantastic thing to want to talk about.

Until we get national reciprocity and I can get a Utah license, this is mostly moot anyway. But if I did, having to take it off at home seemed inconvenient and, possibly, pretty stupid. But if it's going to be that much of a bother, I'll do it anyway because, who knows, maybe nothing will ever happen, and I'll have had all this drama for nothing. It isn't a dangerous neighborhood and, right now, I feel no real need to carry at home. Just trying not to be naive.
 
when my EDC ain't on, either my 442, or my LCP ride strong side front pocket. i have had the same chat with my lovely wife... and she says i'm a paranoid. problem is, my living room is exactly between my pistol box in master bedroom, and big safe in back ofc. the front door opens up onto, you guessed it, the living room. trying to get to one or the other location would be hard, and probably leave my family to fend off any intruder that may want to c'mon in... i'll continue to carry in my home, much to my wifes dis-pleasure.
 
ExcitableBoy said:
"WHAT ARE THE ODDS?"

.0001% odds are too high! You could still be 100% DEAD!!!

Shake the cobwebs out of your noggin. NOWHERE is totally "safe" anymore, if it ever was.

I generally apply my "5% Rule" to all humanity no matter what topic is being considered. I tend to trust that 5% with just about anything... and then I'm not too sure about them, either.
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"Odds"....... LOL....... I'll assume that's a shot across my bow.

Ya it's "cooool" to carry a gun 24/7/365........you got that fire extinguisher in the other pocket...... wear a level III vest with plate 24/7...is your house the equivalent of Savage Mountain....... doors, windows......a bunker life style????

Lets be real ...you admit to being an "excitable boy".... but remember just cus you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL..... life is a compromise......... for each of us....... we all make them ......... think it through and make the right one for you!
 
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