BG 2.0 (self-induced) Problem

[dbikers]

Hello all,
I recently ( a week ago) purchased a BG 2.0 (I love this gun). BUT, i have unwittingly induced a problem with it and for the life of me, i can't figure it out!

OK, here goes.....
I had the gun field-stripped (have done this more than a few times and have re-assembled without issue).
This time, i didn't put the barrel or recoil spring in (yes, i am a dumb*****). I slid the slide (albeit slowly) back and now it appears that the slide is hung up (i think on the striker?).

Can anyone help a dumb-dumb out with getting the slide back off?

Grill-away....

TIA for any helpful response

John

***UPDATED. READ POST #29***

 

[ImDrRich]

Call S&W Customer Service - 1800-331-0852.

Others here may know more. Are you near a gun store that sells it?

 

[ImDrRich]

I was actually on hold with S&W Customer service and asked your question. I was told to take it to a gunsmith or call to have it sent back and freed up.

 

[ladder13]

Welcome to the forum John.

We all make mistakes, all are fixable except one.

Please hang around a bit.

 

[dbikers]

I was actually on hold with S&W Customer service and asked your question. I was told to take it to a gunsmith or call to have it sent back and freed up.

DrRich, thanks for asking while you were on the phone with them...i was going to call them and ask but thought to ask here first.

Yikes on the solution, i'm a bit afraid to take it to a "hammer" (smith) around here (i'm not familiar with any of the shops around here) and think it'd be better to send back to S&W.
I'd have hoped that they wouldn't make a mousetrap so easy to screw up (i could mess up a soup sammich and would be better off with a stick and a rock ).

More importantly, don't do what i did !

 

[dbikers]

Welcome to the forum John.

We all make mistakes, all are fixable except one.

Please hang around a bit.

Thanks for the welcome ladder,it's much appreciated !

 

[WilsonFlyer]

That is really disturbing. There is no world in which this should create a situation in which the owner couldn't fix this, especially given the fact that many will probably try this on purpose given the problem with the recoil spring group 'just to make sure it works without it.'

 

[dbikers]

Soooooooo, 4-6 months for non-warranty work to be returned.
Looks like imma figure it out (or take it to a gunsmith).
I honestly think i should be able to remove the striker/spring/sleeve if i drift out the rear sight and then drift out the rear striker cover plate. That should get the slide off....not sure after that, but we'll see.

https://youtu.be/70vqo9hMkck

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Soooooooo, 4-6 months for non-warranty work to be returned.
Looks like imma figure it out (or take it to a gunsmith).
I honestly think i should be able to remove the striker/spring/sleeve if i drift out the rear sight and then drift out the rear striker cover plate. That should get the slide off....not sure after that, but we'll see.

https://youtu.be/70vqo9hMkck

Wow. That's gotta be the answer. It can't be but so impossible.

I'd get a good slide pusher. From what I've read here and at other places, that back sight is a booger to get out.

I just refuse to have anything I can't work on. Maybe it's just me, but this is really making me hesitate about buying a 2.0. Just on GP.

 

[dbikers]

Wow. That's gotta be the answer. It can't be but so impossible.

I'd get a good slide pusher. From what I've read here and at other places, that back sight is a booger to get out.

I just refuse to have anything I can't work on. Maybe it's just me, but this is really making me hesitate about buying a 2.0. Just on GP.

heh....i agree with you WF, but remember, I'm the idiot who created the issue....as long as you don't do the same (or let someone do this to your gun) you should be good to go.

I'm not gonna bash the co and the CS rep was nice enough, but it was a really short converstation and I'm a li'l surprised that i got NUTHIN from S&W, only "you can take it to a gunsmith, they might be able to get it apart"

meh, it needs new sights anyway lol

I will post after i get it apart...

Thanks all...

 

[Saudade]

My apologies but I'm a bit confused. Dos the slide fully retract and slides forward but hangs up before sitting in a "normal" position (maybe a bit rearward)?

Have you tried pushing the slide forward a bit (until the slide and rear end of frame align, like in battery) and pull the trigger to release the striker?

 

[lunger]

My apologies but I'm a bit confused. Dos the slide fully retract and slides forward but hangs up before sitting in a "normal" position (maybe a bit rearward)?

Have you tried pushing the slide forward a bit (until the slide and rear end of frame align, like in battery) and pull the trigger to release the striker?

I was thinking the same thing . Does the slide move or is it locked in one position ?

Or can you open it enough to reach the ejector lever and push it to the lower position ?

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I'm like y'all. If I had one, I'd lock mine up out of spite just to see what he's talking about. It just shouldn't do that. But we all know that the rear slide in the 2.0 is built differently than traditional slides likely due to space/size constraints of the project.

I don't doubt what he's saying. That still doesn't make it make sense.

I'm going to fall on my sword with regards to my comment about the recoil assembly. This is probably going to happen a lot simply because that recoil assembly is a known problem, and some people are going to try it without the spring just to "see what they could see" without it. I can damn near guarantee you that would have been the first thing I would have tried if I couldn't get my slide back on correctly (and didn't know about the seating issue). I would have put myself in the same position and it wouldn't have necessarily been because I forgot.

You made a simple error in re-assembly that any of us could have done in a hurry as we all are these days. Don't beat yourself up. If you won't blame the manufacturer, I certainly will. This shouldn't be able to happen. Period. "Send it in or take it to a gunsmith." because you forgot a spring. I'm calling BS. In no world should that be the right answer.

 

[dben002]

Hope this helps.....

I actually did the same thing with a Shield Plus....

If you look you will see the slide is not in battery (fully aligned)..
You can push the slide forward until it aligns with the frame and then you can pull the trigger to release the striker block then remove the slide.

 

[dbikers]

I was thinking the same thing . Does the slide move or is it locked in one position ?

Or can you open it enough to reach the ejector lever and push it to the lower position ?

It wasn’t locked…the striker just grabbed when trying to slide fwd..it would slide all the way to back and about 1/2” fwd.
There was no forcing it.

 

[dbikers]

Lesson learned…
20 minute (2 beers) and the rear sight was off and the striker slid out the rear.
20 min later reassembled (properly) and slow-fired 5 rounds.
All is well…

I would NOT recommend doing what I did…I didn’t see any way to fix other than what I did (and s&w didn’t suggest anything other than sending to them and waiting for 4-6 mos or taking to a smith and hoping for the best).

In hindsight, I am confident that any gunsmith coulda properly fixed it…I just don’t like other ppl working on my stuff.

FWIW, I rlly like this gun and I rlly like this grp

Thanks all, imma stick around a while

John

 

[ImDrRich]

Wow. That's gotta be the answer. It can't be but so impossible.

I'd get a good slide pusher. From what I've read here and at other places, that back sight is a booger to get out.

I just refuse to have anything I can't work on. Maybe it's just me, but this is really making me hesitate about buying a 2.0. Just on GP.

It took a lot of to get my BG 2.0 working and looking the way I want it to, but in the end it was worth all the frustration because I really like that little .380. Yes, that back sight is difficult to get out, but it can be done with the right pusher. Of course, YMMV.

 

[LVSteve]

I'm still lost as to what can cause the hang up. The barrel and RSA are nowhere near the striker or trigger mechanism. If the striker is catching the sear, then pulling the trigger with the slide in the "in battery" position should release the slide. Color me baffled.

 

[dbikers]

Whelp, im kinda new to pocket guns and not reel good with striker fire technology and part names (and there is no diagram for this gun that I could find), but will tell you this..
Without the barrel/recoil spring when you push the slide all the way back (like when the shell ejects) and then try to put into battery position, the hooked part of the striker catches on something and will not “close”. the slide stays open about 3/8” and there was seemingly no forcing it…and the trigger wasn’t (and wouldn’t reset by pushing the slide all the way to the rear or forward until it hung up.

I feel stupid that I was dumb enough to have done what i did (and post trying to find resolution)…and when i call their CS and get nothing helpful I figured I needed to do something (which I did to get the gun working again). But i don’t feel stupid for fixing it even if i did more than i had to to resolve it (tho i don’t believe i could have done it any other way). I took a pic of what part the striker was hung up on, but I don’t know how to upload it (again, im kinda slow)

But if someone makes the same mistake I made (altho I wouldn’t recommend it) id love to know how you get yours apart again (if you get it done without removing the striker).

I hope i cleared up why I did what I did

 

[Autonomous]

Would a schematic help with your explanation? I think, but am not sure, the following schematic is the BG 2.0