Bodyguard 2.0 issues and some potential solutions -

[New2S&W77]

"My conclusion is that the current rear sight is clearly too wide to render the sight picture easily found. In other words, Solution 2 here is that the rear sight must be exchanged."

My subjective take:
Consider the BG2 philosophy of use...
It's likely true that pocket-mouse-guns' uses are close up, get-off-me firearms intended for one second acquisition and, if time allows... sight alignment.
I feel S&W was thinking about this when it comes to the larger "U" notch in the rear, I'll explain....

If found in an unfortunate situation of needing to utilize the BG2 for what it's built for, you may appreciate the rear "U" notch size. At first I recoiled at its canyon like size as well, until I thought about it... and did a little test.
Using a pistol rest at 10yds. away from the target, I centered the front sight equally inside the rear and basically shot out the 10x portion. Then pinning the left side of the front sight to the inside of the rear sight's left goal post... just enough to not allow light to be seen and fired 5rds. resulting in a nice group landing ~5" left of bullseye X. Repeating the same scenario on the right side of the front sight yielded the same results ~5" right.
Our brains/eyes are wired to naturally center the front post, and we train that way. With that understood, having a center-to-center spread of 10" at 10yds. is ideal given a potential high stress, life defending situation.
My point is this... yes, I want to be as perfect as possible at the range by taking my time, but real life won't be the same.

 

[6Sally5]

Well…after running a couple hundred rounds through mine, I have decided I really like this firearm. I have found it to be accurate at 10-15 yards if I take my time, concentrate on the front sight and don’t rush the trigger. Slow and smooth with practice will bring up my speed. My BG2 is well made and accurate. My 9mm Shield gets to take a vacation for a while.

 

[billyben]

I picked up a BodyGuard 2.0 today and bought an extra 12 round magazine for it. For some reason I could not get more that 2 rounds to load with a Uplula in either magazine after the initial load. This occurred with three different brands of ammunition. I did a forum search and did not see this mentioned anywhere else. Anyone else having this issue? BTW what little bit that I did get to shoot, impressed me. Just waiting for Crimson Trace or ArmaLaserto come out with a LaserGuard Green Dot sight Ivery bad eyes) and get this mag issue figured out.

 

[Rob613]

I picked up a BodyGuard 2.0 today and bought an extra 12 round magazine for it. For some reason I could not get more that 2 rounds to load with a Uplula in either magazine after the initial load. This occurred with three different brands of ammunition. I did a forum search and did not see this mentioned anywhere else. Anyone else having this issue? BTW what little bit that I did get to shoot, impressed me. Just waiting for Crimson Trace or ArmaLaserto come out with a LaserGuard Green Dot sight Ivery bad eyes) and get this mag issue figured out.

The issue is with the follower, common issue. You can trim it.

What was the date in the box?

 

[ladder13]

“What is odd is where they are hanging up. They appear not to leave the magazine and are getting caught at the bottom edge of the frame’s feed ramp. “

I have about 200 rounds through mine so far and it has been flawlessly feeding every type of ammo including cast and pc RF lead bullets. Then yesterday I had the same issue with a round getting stuck coming out of the 13 round mag. It worked fine when I removed the first of the 13. It was like it was too tight to feed. I can say this…I sure wouldn’t want to get into a thumb wrestling match with anybody that can load that 13-round mag without using a Uplula loader!

Maybe because it’s a 12 rd magazine?

 

[billyben]

The issue is with the follower, common issue. You can trim it.

What was the date in the box?

Thanks, I trimmed the follower after I figured out where it iwas hitting. I couldn't find a date in the box. I did find what appears to be a date on the box label of 10/22/24

 

[TwinV10]

I put 100 rounds through mine today and had 3 FTF incidents after inserting the magazine. I released the slide in three different methods to make sure it wasn't me. (Slingshot, full grip across the top and slide release). This was all with Fiocchi ammo. Really odd. After the initial feed problem no problems. My recoil spring is VERY stiff but has loosened up some after 200 or so rounds now. Maybe me...maybe doesn't like the ammo. I love this little gun and I'm going to hang in there with it till it smooths out. And carry my LCP Max till it does.

 

[6Sally5]

Mine shot perfectly for a couple hundred rounds on many kinds of ammo including my reloads. I reload with Berry’s 95 grain plated round nose and also cast lead 95 grain semiwadcutters. All of a sudden, I was getting quite a few failure to go into battery issues with my Berry’s. It took a lot of head scratching to figure out the bullets weren’t seated deep enough. After adjusting my die, it’s back to 100% again. What really puzzles me, is I didn’t change anything with my seater die that would have caused this. As was pointed out to me, many barrels just don’t like certain ammo types. Maybe mine just got finicky?

 

[agksimon]

Mine shot perfectly for a couple hundred rounds on many kinds of ammo including my reloads. I reload with Berry’s 95 grain plated round nose and also cast lead 95 grain semiwadcutters. All of a sudden, I was getting quite a few failure to go into battery issues with my Berry’s. It took a lot of head scratching to figure out the bullets weren’t seated deep enough. After adjusting my die, it’s back to 100% again. What really puzzles me, is I didn’t change anything with my seater die that would have caused this. As was pointed out to me, many barrels just don’t like certain ammo types. Maybe mine just got finicky?

I'm finding that I can purchase bulk ammo almost as cheap as I can reload.

 

[klowman]

"My conclusion is that the current rear sight is clearly too wide to render the sight picture easily found. In other words, Solution 2 here is that the rear sight must be exchanged."

My subjective take...
Consider the BG2 philosophy of use: It's likely true that pocket-mouse-guns' uses are close up, get-off-me firearms intended for one second acquisition and, if time allows... sight alignment.
I feel S&W was thinking about this when it comes to the larger "U" notch in the rear, I'll explain....

If found in an unfortunate situation of needing to utilize the BG2 for what it's built for, you may appreciate the rear "U" notch size. At first I recoiled at its canyon like size as well, until I thought about it... and did a little test.
Using a pistol rest from 10yds. away from the target, I centered the front sight equally inside the rear and basically shot out the 10x portion. Then pinning the left side of the front sight to the inside of the rear sight's left goal post... just enough to not allow light to be seen and fired 5rds. resulting in a nice group landing ~5" left of bullseye X. Repeating the same scenario on the right side of the front sight yielded the same results ~5" right.
Our trained brains/eyes are wired to naturally center the front post. With that understood, having a center-to-center spread of 10" at 10yds. is ideal given a potential high stress, life defending situation.
My point is this... yes, I want to be as perfect as possible at the range by taking my time, but real life won't be the same.

So this past Saturday went and placed rounds 176 thru 300 down range. 100 rds of Fiocchi Range Dynamics 95g, and 24 rds of Hornady American Gunner.

All shot flawlessly.

Bench shot first 24 rds and consistency shot 3" left and 1-2" low.

So, versus changing out sights or pushing the front to the left or rear to the right, I stated aiming for the 2 O'clock position and every round after that was landing in the bullseye, at 7.5 yards and a grouping about size of an orange (minus the occasional flyer of course...).

 

[GnarlsR2]

I have spent many hours and many rounds sighting-in a firearm, verifying it’s reliability, determine accuracy at specific distances to a target, and become intimately familiar with its operation and safety features.

Having to pick up a firearm and NOT put the sights at the POI is beyond logic and pathetically absurd. If my self-defense firearm will not hit a target where I’m aiming, it might as well be a 2 pound frisbee.

If a firearm manufacturer cannot make a firearm the shoots straight out of the box they should reconsider a different product. I completely understand MTTF, QC, Design Defects, and Manufacturing Defects. I especially understand Customer Service for the consumer. Brand loyalty and brand recognition require excellent Customer Service.

 

[bbj380]

I put 100 rounds through mine today and had 3 FTF incidents after inserting the magazine. I released the slide in three different methods to make sure it wasn't me. (Slingshot, full grip across the top and slide release). This was all with Fiocchi ammo. Really odd. After the initial feed problem no problems. My recoil spring is VERY stiff but has loosened up some after 200 or so rounds now. Maybe me...maybe doesn't like the ammo. I love this little gun and I'm going to hang in there with it till it smooths out. And carry my LCP Max till it does.

I also bought a new BG2.0 in October and just shot it for the first time. With Fiochhi ammo It jams constantly and shoots to the 2" low and left at 5 yrds.
I loaded up both factory 10 and 12 rd mags with Fiocchi 95 gr and the gun wouldnt feed the first round from either mag. I couldnt get it to load rhe first round at all even if I forcedully rode the slide forward. It jammed with the round half way stripped from the mag. Ultimately it wouldnt run reliably unless the mags held only 5 to 6 rds. I will order some other brands of ammo and retest. I will also let the mags sit full for a while and see if they break-in. I havent had this much fun since my Kahr CW380.
LCP Max with same ammo was 100% reliability, hitting less than an inch to the left at 5 yrds.

 

[halfmoonclip]

Mine shot perfectly for a couple hundred rounds on many kinds of ammo including my reloads. I reload with Berry’s 95 grain plated round nose and also cast lead 95 grain semiwadcutters. All of a sudden, I was getting quite a few failure to go into battery issues with my Berry’s. It took a lot of head scratching to figure out the bullets weren’t seated deep enough. After adjusting my die, it’s back to 100% again. What really puzzles me, is I didn’t change anything with my seater die that would have caused this. As was pointed out to me, many barrels just don’t like certain ammo types. Maybe mine just got finicky?

Your seating plug backed up a half a thread, causing the problem. I check my dies from time to time, and mike OAL. Also, 'plonk' your ammo, factory or handload.
My 2.0 had a few bobbles early on, which has gone away completely. Our snubby league has a course of fire one hand and weak hand, and the gun has run just fine even then.
Moon

 

[halfmoonclip]

Sights and magazines:
-have two BG1.0 that I fitted with TruGlo sights, and kept the OEMs. They have a narrower window than the 2.0 rear and it makes a perfect pairing with the 2.0 front. Full disclosure; all of these sights are perfect buggers to move or remove. BTW, my pistols shot left, and even the front sight was off center.
-Magazines are an ongoing issue. I carry 10s, and have little use for the 12s. Some mags readily load 10, and can be seated against a closed slide. Others are really difficult to load the last round, and can only be locked in against a closed slide by really leaning on the magazine. Once inserted with an open slide, they run just fine, and can be trusted for carry...but not for a reload. A couple others will readily accept 10 rounds, and will easily seat against a closed slide. The guns feed about anything.
It is spring stacking, not a matter of springs breaking in. I just hope Smith will address the issue with newer magazines. I'm holding off ordering any more magazines for that reason.
Moon

 

[bbj380]

My 10rd fits fine, unloaded or loaded. But my 12rd wont click into place even unloaded unless I really slap it hard.

 

[6Sally5]

Your seating plug backed up a half a thread, causing the problem. I check my dies from time to time, and mike OAL. Also, 'plonk' your ammo, factory or handload.
My 2.0 had a few bobbles early on, which has gone away completely. Our snubby league has a course of fire one hand and weak hand, and the gun has run just fine even then.
Moon

I think you’re right, but I’ve never had that happen in thousands of rounds…but, ya never know! Anyway, I pulled the bullets, removed appropriate amount of powder and re-seated on 100 rounds. They all cycled perfectly. That was my problem…bullets not seated deep enough. I love this little gun!

 

[CajunBass]

I put 100 rounds through mine today and had 3 FTF incidents after inserting the magazine. I released the slide in three different methods to make sure it wasn't me. (Slingshot, full grip across the top and slide release). This was all with Fiocchi ammo. Really odd. After the initial feed problem no problems. My recoil spring is VERY stiff but has loosened up some after 200 or so rounds now. Maybe me...maybe doesn't like the ammo. I love this little gun and I'm going to hang in there with it till it smooths out. And carry my LCP Max till it does.

The only malfunctions I've had were with some Fiocchi HP's I tried last week. I think I had two failures to feed out of 25 rounds. To make it even worse the 25 fired straight to point of aim, the only ammo I've tried that did that. The bullets are seated a little shallower than the Sierra stuff I'd been using. This will require more testing. Maybe an off box that time.

 

[TwinV10]

I put 100 rounds through mine today and had 3 FTF incidents after inserting the magazine. I released the slide in three different methods to make sure it wasn't me. (Slingshot, full grip across the top and slide release). This was all with Fiocchi ammo. Really odd. After the initial feed problem no problems. My recoil spring is VERY stiff but has loosened up some after 200 or so rounds now. Maybe me...maybe doesn't like the ammo. I love this little gun and I'm going to hang in there with it till it smooths out. And carry my LCP Max till it does.

Welp put another 100 rounds through it today and it was flawless. I use 50 Aguila nd 50 Magtech just target stuff. For some reason every ftf I had was with Fiocchi ammo. No idea why maybe ever so slight tolerance difference but I'm very happy the BG is settling in. The magazines are much easier to load and the tough racking is a bit better as well. I love this little gun, it makes my "compact" Glock 36 feel like an absolute brick.

 

[TwinV10]

I also bought a new BG2.0 in October and just shot it for the first time. With Fiochhi ammo It jams constantly and shoots to the 2" low and left at 5 yrds.
I loaded up both factory 10 and 12 rd mags with Fiocchi 95 gr and the gun wouldnt feed the first round from either mag. I couldnt get it to load rhe first round at all even if I forcedully rode the slide forward. It jammed with the round half way stripped from the mag. Ultimately it wouldnt run reliably unless the mags held only 5 to 6 rds. I will order some other brands of ammo and retest. I will also let the mags sit full for a while and see if they break-in. I havent had this much fun since my Kahr CW380.
LCP Max with same ammo was 100% reliability, hitting less than an inch to the left at 5 yrds.

It's the Fiocchi ammo. I had repeated FTF's with it and as posted above changed ammo and smooth sailing.

 

[BLLefkay]

It's the Fiocchi ammo. I had repeated FTF's with it and as posted above changed ammo and smooth sailing.

Fiocchi was goofy with me too!