Buds Gun Shop really "Chaps" me, When is buying something really not?

LGS here sold all the used AR 15's they had and so they raised the price by 100.00 on all the new AR 15's they have in stock. They are simply taking advantage of the situation.


Just before the '94 gun ban went into effect,one LGS had AKs for $350. The day the ban went into effect,the same guns were $850! Supply and demand at work.
f.t.
 
A debit card is the same as a credit card to them. They clearly list what payment types receive a discount.

Some people get upset because they don't understand online/phone purchases. Buds is in business to sell stuff, not hold it. Inventory is not in their hands, most of the time. They forward the order to THEIR distributor, who sends to your FFL. There is process time with this type of purchase.

Are they the "best"? Maybe not, but they sure do sell a LOT of guns.

I did my deal with them on the phone for a new gun. They did not explain that I was losing my discount for using my credit card untill after the process was done. I don't think using a debit card costs them anything because as I understand it, I am the one paying a fee to the bank.
 
If you pay by card then they have to pay extra for the processing fee involved with the card. Credit or debit, they have to pay a fee for that processing. Banks don't do squat for free these days.
 
I did my deal with them on the phone for a new gun. They did not explain that I was losing my discount for using my credit card untill after the process was done. I don't think using a debit card costs them anything because as I understand it, I am the one paying a fee to the bank.

Unless you are in a merchant's store to swipe your debit card and enter your pin number, the merchant has to process the card as a normal credit card and pay the associated fees.
 
Received another reply from these geniuses.

Well guys it was a USED gun:rolleyes:

"We are sorry you feel this way if a gun is out of stock you can add it to wishlist to notify you if and when it comes back in stock."

Buds Team,

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I guess I don't get it. If you choose to pay by check and understand it has to clear before they actually have the bux, why would they, as business people, wait around for a 'maybe the check will come' when another buyer is ready to transfer cash right now? You know you're honest but they have no way of knowing whether or not you'll do what you say you'll do. Not everyone would be as honest as you are and there's no reason they should be obligated to risk financial exposure as a general practice to find out. Excellent way to lose money.

It's the same buying and selling on the forum. It's not a sale until you have the money. The only difference is how long the seller is willing to wait for the buyer to make good.

What am I missing?
 
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So you are selling something on the forum, I say I'll take it. MO is on it's way.

Your friend comes over 2 days later says hey, I like that, here is the cash. You send me a PM, too bad, so sad I sold it to someone else.:confused:

I have purchased from them before and this was not their policy

If I recall, they had a credit card as a "insurance policy"
 
So you are selling something on the forum, I say I'll take it. MO is on it's way.

Your friend comes over 2 days later says hey, I like that, here is the cash. You send me a PM, too bad, so sad I sold it to someone else.:confused:

I have purchased from them before and this was not their policy

If I recall, they had a credit card as a "insurance policy"


I'm with you on that part. If you hit the buy button and selected your method of payment then they should have just labeled it as sold.
 
I bought a gun a year or two ago from them and was happy with the product, price, and the service. The problem I had was at the same time someone hacked their system and got a lot of peoples cc #'s, including mine, and I had some fraudulent charges show up on my card. Luckily my cc company didn't charge me for any of the fraudulent charges, but I was really not impressed with how Bud's handled it. They didn't do anything on communicating this to their customers other than a post on their forums, and as far as I know did nothing for anybody who was victimized. I may be totally wrong on being put off by it, but I am.
 
I use a very tiny LGS that is owned by the son of the original owner. It's really very small. Maybe 200 sq ft. When I go in, there is almost always someone there just hanging out talking. I sometimes spend half hour to an hour there just talking about guns, the state of gun control or the local weather. I have purchased a couple of new guns from their limited inventory (you can only fit so much in a building that small). They usually don't have what I want. So I ask them to see what it will cost and when I can get it. So far the longest I have had to wait is 4 days. Usually 1 or 2. I bought a SW 500 from them around the 1st of Jan for $100 less than I could find anywhere! It was delivered the next day! Their prices are very competitive with Buds, Cheaper T. D. By the time you do shipping and FFl fees they are usually cheaper. Occasionally they are $5-$10 higher. I buy from them anyways. I like the idea of a local company that knows my name, what kind of guns I like and who my wife is and the name of my dogs. I have purchased a used Model 10 from Bud's but I don't plan to buy anything else. I don't like the cash only price vs CC when they won't hold that specific gun until they get your $. So I will stick to Gun shows, buying from forum members and using my LGS for new guns and FFL transfers. I would rather pay an extra 1-2-% for a gun for great customer service. And so far I have made out better anyway.
 
I am pretty much the same. Been going to the same LGS for ever. I very rarely buy any were else. In this case it was a very hard to find or come by item down here.

Oh well, I will survive and look at all the money I saved.;)
 
I guess I don't get it. If you choose to pay by check and understand it has to clear before they actually have the bux, why would they, as business people, wait around for a 'maybe the check will come' when another buyer is ready to transfer cash right now? You know you're honest but they have no way of knowing whether or not you'll do what you say you'll do. Not everyone would be as honest as you are and there's no reason they should be obligated to risk financial exposure as a general practice to find out. Excellent way to lose money.

It's the same buying and selling on the forum. It's not a sale until you have the money. The only difference is how long the seller is willing to wait for the buyer to make good.

What am I missing?

Point is that they agreed to sell you an item for a certain price. They should at least give you reasonable time to submit the payment before selling it out from under you.
 
Point is that they agreed to sell you an item for a certain price. They should at least give you reasonable time to submit the payment before selling it out from under you.
I guess that's my point. What's reasonable to the buyer may not be to the seller. I had a guy jerk me around buying a P7M8. I waited over 10 days, communicated with him twice during that time and got no response. I had given a deadline and when it passed with no action, I sold to the number two buyer. Maybe B's could benefit from something like that practice but I don't think they're obligated to. It's their merchandise on their credit.

Buyer's are free to look elsewhere (and pay more) if they don't approve. The electronic check thing is really easy and a little shopping will find you a bank or credit that does not charge for checking. So, the way I see it, it, sealing the deal immediately is simple.

My own policy is to use my favorite GS giving them about $50 leeway on a new firearm
 
Didn't know that about Paypal, that bites big time. As for Buds, about a year ago I bought my wife and daughter each a lil pocket-pistol. Neither could rack the slide. I called, talked to- can;t remember his name- but he agreed to let me ship the two back, and only charged me 10 bucks each to trade for two different pistols. Still didn't charge me for shipping the 2nd pair to us. Knowing the previous guns were now "Used", he coulda taken me for a ton. Things may well have changed, but that one transaction won't be forgotten. But I'll remember that can't hold a gun thing- I have only bought new ones, and there was no issue with availability.
 
What's worse is trying to trade a gun to them, waiting on the trade guy to get back to you. 50% of the time the gun's gone by the time Gomer gets back to you, if his lazy butt gets back to you at all.

Not a BUDS fan either......

They way undervalue your trade also. They had a Dan Wesson @ the Tn store that someone had screwed-up the slide flats with a dremel tool looked awful, could be flat sanded out had 499.00 on it, 1911. T tried to trade a week old Gen 4 Glock 22 with 4 mags, offered me 350.00, I said loud as I could tell the trade guy to kiss my ***. I know the Dan was a high dollar gun, b4 Guber got hold of it. I would have never traded that gun looking that bad, I wouldn't want people to know I was that STUPID!
 
Buds has low prices, price matching and free shipping.
Is their service the best and fastest? No.
If enough people don't like what they offer and refuse to use them, they will either change the way they operate or go out of business.
It's a buyers market always, no matter what someone tells you.
 
Buds has low prices, price matching and free shipping.
Is their service the best and fastest? No.
If enough people don't like what they offer and refuse to use them, they will either change the way they operate or go out of business.
It's a buyers market always, no matter what someone tells you.

That may well be but why would i wait a day or two or 7 waiting for a price match when i can purchase from the lowest offer seller now where is the advantage in that...hey if you like them deal with them..no problem here with that..
 
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