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I've searched and read about timing, lock up, end shake and gap. Is the anything specific to a 14-2 that I need to check? Going to look at 1 tomorrow. I'm thinking a shooter not a collectors model.
Buying a 14-2
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Nothing extra special to check. Just go through all the normal S&W revolver checks. The 14 is one of the best target guns they built, unless abused it should still be a great shooter.
Along with the things you have mentioned, I always look at the condition of the sideplate screws, and the cylinder stop slots. Excessive peening in the stop slots, and damaged sideplate screws can indicate careless handling and abuse. Dirt and shooting debris can be easily removed....some types of carelessness go to the bone.
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Ole Joe Clark
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I purchased one not long ago, in great shape. The side plate screws had crud in them, no scratches. I don't think the side plate had ever been taken off. The inside was dry as a bone, and not to dirty.
Have a blessed day,
Leon
Have a blessed day,
Leon
GyMac
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I prefer the Model 14 to have the standard trigger and hammer instead of the target. Of course, they can be replaced, but it's something I look for.
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Why? I bought one from the late 60's with standard trigger and hammer and find myself wishing for the targets. Not that it would shoot any better.
GyMac
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I just enjoy shooting DA revolvers DA!
Just an odd ball situation you might look for. Cycle the trigger in double action mode. If the hammer does not move. You've got a SAO model. Now, here is the interesting part............if it is SAO and came that way from the factory, only a letter will verify this, you have a revolver that is worth more than the standard DA/SA model. How much more, well that's a bit subjective.
If it is SAO maybe the seller does not know what they have. Just something to think about. Model 14's are terrific target revolvers. If you get it you will really enjoy it. I've got them in both SA/DA and SAO only.
If it is SAO maybe the seller does not know what they have. Just something to think about. Model 14's are terrific target revolvers. If you get it you will really enjoy it. I've got them in both SA/DA and SAO only.
Actually, one of the model 14 purchases I made (online) was problematic. It was a 4 screw no dash that I bought from Simpson's maybe five or six years ago. It is true, however, that the 14 is a great gun.
The problem was that the trigger wouldn't return to reset unless the side plate cover was loosened a bit (???). A friend and I took the gun apart several times, and although cleaning and lube help, the problem never cleared up. After taking it apart one last time, I took a fine file and made a couple passes on the interior of the cover plate - just a couple of swipes on the raised round surface that butts up against the trigger assembly.
The gun had been used as a competitive shooter, and the trigger seemed quite light, so I figured that the problem was that someone put in such a light rebound spring that the tension of the cover plate fully tightened kept the trigger from returning to the correct position. My amateur gunsmithing worked - never a problem in the five or six years since.
So, when looking at target revolvers, make sure that any competitive trigger work - or other mods - haven't led to any problems, but that's probably unlikely. Most mods of this sort are made by competent people.
Have fun.
The problem was that the trigger wouldn't return to reset unless the side plate cover was loosened a bit (???). A friend and I took the gun apart several times, and although cleaning and lube help, the problem never cleared up. After taking it apart one last time, I took a fine file and made a couple passes on the interior of the cover plate - just a couple of swipes on the raised round surface that butts up against the trigger assembly.
The gun had been used as a competitive shooter, and the trigger seemed quite light, so I figured that the problem was that someone put in such a light rebound spring that the tension of the cover plate fully tightened kept the trigger from returning to the correct position. My amateur gunsmithing worked - never a problem in the five or six years since.
So, when looking at target revolvers, make sure that any competitive trigger work - or other mods - haven't led to any problems, but that's probably unlikely. Most mods of this sort are made by competent people.
Have fun.
bananaman
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Although was not an issue on my 14-3, I had 2 Smiths that had shortened strain screws when I bought them. Not getting proper primer strikes. Fortunately, an easy fix. Bob
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I hope i did the pictures right.
early this spring I was at the local gun show. I came across this 14-2.
I has just a little wear on the front of the barrel. and a small scratch on the side plate. Target hammer and trigger. Now I am fairly new to the pistol shooting and buying. Just a couple years into it now and having alot of fun.
Now at the time i forgot about the single action I read about in the book. I think he was asking 550 or so for it. I told him i was going to check out the rest of the show and would be back. I came back looked at it again and asked if i could cycle to the and check it out. Was checking it out and noticed it would not fire in double action. still without it registering about single action I told the dealer about it. He said great there goes $100 to fix that, and that he just took it in on a trade and never checked it. He came down the 450 on the gun the way it was. said I was going to look at a 66 I found again and would be back. Now, when i left him I remembered about the single action I read about. When i got back to him I told him. I remember reading the some were made in single action only. I told him I don't know how to tel. I said this could be one or it could also have a problem with it. I said I would take a chance on it for 400 and he pay the taxes. He thought about it for awhile and said it was mine. As I was doing the paperwork he called someone. He came back and said I just got one hell of a buy. He said he is a man of his word and said it was my gun, the he does not go back on his word. I thanked him but told him i didn't feel right about taking it. He said no, the deal was made. He is the most honest gun dealer I have ever found. And I hope to do Lots more business with him in the future. Now the book never said anything about the box that i remember, and i never looked at the box. But it shows SA in special features that a assume is Single action.
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I hope i did the pictures right.
early this spring I was at the local gun show. I came across this 14-2.
I has just a little wear on the front of the barrel. and a small scratch on the side plate. Target hammer and trigger. Now I am fairly new to the pistol shooting and buying. Just a couple years into it now and having alot of fun.
Now at the time i forgot about the single action I read about in the book. I think he was asking 550 or so for it. I told him i was going to check out the rest of the show and would be back. I came back looked at it again and asked if i could cycle to the and check it out. Was checking it out and noticed it would not fire in double action. still without it registering about single action I told the dealer about it. He said great there goes $100 to fix that, and that he just took it in on a trade and never checked it. He came down the 450 on the gun the way it was. said I was going to look at a 66 I found again and would be back. Now, when i left him I remembered about the single action I read about. When i got back to him I told him. I remember reading the some were made in single action only. I told him I don't know how to tel. I said this could be one or it could also have a problem with it. I said I would take a chance on it for 400 and he pay the taxes. He thought about it for awhile and said it was mine. As I was doing the paperwork he called someone. He came back and said I just got one hell of a buy. He said he is a man of his word and said it was my gun, the he does not go back on his word. I thanked him but told him i didn't feel right about taking it. He said no, the deal was made. He is the most honest gun dealer I have ever found. And I hope to do Lots more business with him in the future. Now the book never said anything about the box that i remember, and i never looked at the box. But it shows SA in special features that a assume is Single action.
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If the dealer had read the box label he should have know it was a single action gun. Don't feel sorry for him...
Made in 1963.
I have two Model 14 SAO revolvers (factory, confirmed with Roy), and the SA on the label is the same as yours. Mine are both -3 and within a few serial numbers of each other. 3K92xxx range, so about 10 years newer than yours.
Congratulations on a good deal, and the guy was square with you. Nice to hear stories like this.
Here is a photo of one of mine, with its box:
I have two Model 14 SAO revolvers (factory, confirmed with Roy), and the SA on the label is the same as yours. Mine are both -3 and within a few serial numbers of each other. 3K92xxx range, so about 10 years newer than yours.
Congratulations on a good deal, and the guy was square with you. Nice to hear stories like this.
Here is a photo of one of mine, with its box:
By the way - the target stocks did not come on your gun. The box label indicates Magna stocks.
Only four?
Andy
Here is a picture of about half of the K-38 Masterpiece revolvers that live in my safe. I don't plan to stop adding them, but the search has narrowed down to a few specific examples . . .
Eventually, I'm going to have to add another safe. If I moved all the rifles out to another safe, I would have room for more S&W revolvers!
Here is a picture of about half of the K-38 Masterpiece revolvers that live in my safe. I don't plan to stop adding them, but the search has narrowed down to a few specific examples . . .
Eventually, I'm going to have to add another safe. If I moved all the rifles out to another safe, I would have room for more S&W revolvers!
Yes. An ANIB example from the '40s is still on my acquisition list. Hard to find and tough to afford, when found. I'll get one eventually.
Ole Joe Clark
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Andy52,
Can you post a photo of the non relieved stocks? I just purchased a 14-2 with non relieved stocks and I would like to compare the stocks. If you want PM me and I will send you my email address.
Have a blessed day,
Leon
Can you post a photo of the non relieved stocks? I just purchased a 14-2 with non relieved stocks and I would like to compare the stocks. If you want PM me and I will send you my email address.
Have a blessed day,
Leon
This is a picture that's here on the forum that I post a few weeks ago. The top one is a 14-2, 1966 it has smooth rosewood targets. The lower one is a pre 14 1953 with non relieved targets. If you would like a few more shots I can post some up tomorrow.
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Andy52
Your non relieved targets are in better shape than mine, my shows some wear. I always like photos.
Thanks for posting,
Leon
Your non relieved targets are in better shape than mine, my shows some wear. I always like photos.
Thanks for posting,
Leon
Nice. And a very good price.
OP
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The 1 I was looking at sold for $619.99. That would have been $679.99 by the time it got to me. A little more than I wanted to pay.
YeshuaIsa53
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Super nice gun with an unheard-of price. Thanks for sharing your gun and the deal.
johnyakima
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Model 14-2
I have a 1967 14-2 and it is the
most accurate pistol I have ever
shot. Serial No. K764xxx.
I have a 1967 14-2 and it is the
most accurate pistol I have ever
shot. Serial No. K764xxx.
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I'm sure if the seller had listed it correctly I would have never gotten it for the price I did. I was just surfing GB when I came across it. Opening bid was 475 I was the only bidder, 25 to ship, 20 to my FFL for the transfer. GB is a strange place sometimes you can find a deal and a lot of guns are just way over priced.
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Maybe they are just worth more than I'm willing to pay
Another I placed a bid on went for $575.00. That would have been $615.00 after shipping and fees. Better luck next time.
Another I placed a bid on went for $575.00. That would have been $615.00 after shipping and fees. Better luck next time.
