Calling a Magazine a Clip
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jlrhiner
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As a retired Boilermaker, I want to know what those two pipe fighters know about boilers. 
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Ruger Nut
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As a retired Boilermaker, I want to know what those two pipe fighters know about boilers.
They're heavy?
Delos
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Back to clips and magazines
Yes the M-16 A2 does have a switch position for burst fire. Lots of web sites on that issue.
Now I need to worry about his other stories that could be completely accurate. Maybe the USS Iowa did save their lives when they requested them to fire on their position. He said when that 16 inch shell came rumbling up the canyon the NVA knew what was coming and ran very very fast. His little recon squad ran the other way, then swam their way out of the falling dirt as it blew a hole in the ground you could hide a three story building in.
Well, back to Clips and Magazines. Only important to a supply officer that must send the right thing on the right truck. And to the person filling out the requisition form.
Another friend said that when his Marine outfit landed in Korea there were dead national guard bodies all over the beaches. Their rifles still had Cosmoline in the barrels and could not fire. Some supply officer made a mistake - and probably spent the rest of his life trying to drink the nightmares away.
Yes the M-16 A2 does have a switch position for burst fire. Lots of web sites on that issue.
Now I need to worry about his other stories that could be completely accurate. Maybe the USS Iowa did save their lives when they requested them to fire on their position. He said when that 16 inch shell came rumbling up the canyon the NVA knew what was coming and ran very very fast. His little recon squad ran the other way, then swam their way out of the falling dirt as it blew a hole in the ground you could hide a three story building in.
Well, back to Clips and Magazines. Only important to a supply officer that must send the right thing on the right truck. And to the person filling out the requisition form.
Another friend said that when his Marine outfit landed in Korea there were dead national guard bodies all over the beaches. Their rifles still had Cosmoline in the barrels and could not fire. Some supply officer made a mistake - and probably spent the rest of his life trying to drink the nightmares away.
I"ve been a firearms guy for over 30 years....I know the difference between a clip and a magazine, but in all honesty I really don't care which term is used, in my opinion....if you correct somebody, especially, when you know what they are meaning you are simply being a self righteous jerk... To me you are the same type of person... that when someone says their favorite vegetable is a tomato, You correct them and tell them that its actually a fruit......come on people it really doesn't matter.....
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Cooter Brown
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Well that just tears it. No more tomatoes for me.
As a retired Boilermaker, I want to know what those two pipe fighters know about boilers.
That's Mr. Pipe fighter please!I have installed/maintained plenty of boilers,(pipefitter/welder) I started out working for a small shop and ripped out the old and installed their replacements.
My local had a very good relationship with the Boilermakers and when they did not have much work we put them on. I also worked for the boilermakers at a couple large paper mills when my local was short of work. When I retired I had a nice chunk of change in your annuity program
(some of that money increased my S&W collection)Be well Brother!
litenlarry
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Yeah we are getting off topic..But, I have called in Naval Gunfire from the New Jersey's 16 inchers, ONCE..Check Fire !. EOM ( end of mission)..Not very accurate..As far as how big a hole was made, fuses make the impact of a round act differently..A super quick fuse will have the round explode on contact, more laterial damage..A delayed fuse will create more of a crater as the round does not detonate upon impact..As far as hearing the 16 incher or any arty before they detonate, not in my experience..You can hear the rounds when they go overhead but by then the danger has passed too..
Mortors are a different story if they are close when fired..You can hear the pop then the bang..
I never saw a M2 in Vietnam, during my '69-'70 tours..
A Marine re-con team was normally 6 men, carrying M16's, a M79 Grenade launcher, occasionally a M60,and occasionally a 12 ga pump shotgun, 2 AN/PRC 25 radios( nicknamed Prick 25's)
Poor old Jeff musta had a fit when he found out that Wyatt Earp had to use a revolver to pistol whip miscreants, not having any Glock on hand. Of course Jeff was also fond of using "we" when referring to himself too. I think that had I ever gone to his shooting school I'd a asked him for a couple of clips of ammo while shooting semi autos, just to piss him off. Bet ya he'd a pistol whipped me!
John
Brian41
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I remember my elders from WWII and Korea using the term clip when referring to magazines in their deer rifles. I grew up thinking that a proper term and wasn't until I got on internet gun forums I learned they were wrong.
It doesn't bother me much to hear them referred to as clips but have let some buddies know the right term so they don't embarrass themselves later. I'd much rather them calling them clips than have them snap shut the cylinder on my revolvers with a flick of the wrist. I had to correct my father-in-law on that practice but let him call them clips.
It doesn't bother me much to hear them referred to as clips but have let some buddies know the right term so they don't embarrass themselves later. I'd much rather them calling them clips than have them snap shut the cylinder on my revolvers with a flick of the wrist. I had to correct my father-in-law on that practice but let him call them clips.
My wife is a civil engineer with alot of expertise in concrete. So it used to drive her crazy when people called concrete...cement. (Me included) She has mellowed ove the years and just accepts that most people don't know the difference and really don't care.
drhenzler
Member
Magazines called Clips
I respond to Magazines being called Clips the same way I respond to cartridges being called bullets, or groups being called patterns.
One Reporters Opinion
David
I respond to Magazines being called Clips the same way I respond to cartridges being called bullets, or groups being called patterns.
One Reporters Opinion
David
litenlarry
Member
Having done a fair amount of concrete construction, when someone refers to "pouring concrete" I knew a few of the oldtimers that would reply.." Your pour water, you place concrete"...
mkk41
US Veteran
When my automatic is out of bullets , I just slap in another clip full of shells!
Delos
Member
Of clips and watermellons that are not mellons.
When I told my friend about the Chinese in mass charges, put the criminals in the front ranks….. He admitted the only reason he was in the Marines was because the judge was about to send him to jail. He said the marine recruiter was in the room looking at his file and said "I'll take him your honor". (He was really happy to be rescued from doing a month in jail).
He said when he was on recon, and they got talking at night, they all had the same story about the judge and the recruiter rescuing them.
Back to Clips that are really Magazines. I was really happy years ago to read that a Watermelon was really a berry, but no one wanted to argue about it. Then there is that Herbal - Erbal thing. (Herb was on WKRP in Cincinnati, Erbs are for seasoning). The first time I heard some Englishman from some particular side of England "not pronounce his H'es" I sorta figured it out.
Later I was at a party and somehow I ask an ex-marine if he was a sea-going marine. When he said yes I did the sailor thing of asking him where the Headlights are on a Battlewagon. Naturally he responded there are no headlights on a battlewagon. Naturally I told him "you were never a sea-going marine - the headlights are in the Head" (bathroom).
He chased me into the bathroom and beat on the locked door begging me to come out. The more I laughed, the more he begged me to come out. (Not good to play word games with Marines).
When I told my friend about the Chinese in mass charges, put the criminals in the front ranks….. He admitted the only reason he was in the Marines was because the judge was about to send him to jail. He said the marine recruiter was in the room looking at his file and said "I'll take him your honor". (He was really happy to be rescued from doing a month in jail).
He said when he was on recon, and they got talking at night, they all had the same story about the judge and the recruiter rescuing them.
Back to Clips that are really Magazines. I was really happy years ago to read that a Watermelon was really a berry, but no one wanted to argue about it. Then there is that Herbal - Erbal thing. (Herb was on WKRP in Cincinnati, Erbs are for seasoning). The first time I heard some Englishman from some particular side of England "not pronounce his H'es" I sorta figured it out.
Later I was at a party and somehow I ask an ex-marine if he was a sea-going marine. When he said yes I did the sailor thing of asking him where the Headlights are on a Battlewagon. Naturally he responded there are no headlights on a battlewagon. Naturally I told him "you were never a sea-going marine - the headlights are in the Head" (bathroom).
He chased me into the bathroom and beat on the locked door begging me to come out. The more I laughed, the more he begged me to come out. (Not good to play word games with Marines).
I would be very careful who you call an amateur, they may prove to you different.
You didn't read what I wrote. I wouldn't call someone an amateur, and I didn't say that; I said that not knowing the difference between a clip and a magazine is a sure sign of an amateur, or someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. (Often it's a reporter or politician trying to make an anti-gun point.)
There are other such signs as well...
* Use of the phrase "packin' heat"...
* Referring to a cartridge as a "bullet"...
* Calling anything with a scope a "sniper rifle"...
* Thinking that an AR15 is a machine gun...
* Declaring that "you don't need a [insert gun name] to hunt"...
* Declaring one's support for the Second Amendment, and then listing the guns one thinks shouldn't be available to the public.
I actually know the arms engineer who recommended that the M-16 be modified to fire three-shot bursts. (He's a member on this Forum, but doesn't post much.) He works for the Army, and told me that the situation you described in Vietnam was the exact reason for the modification, and that the change improved hit probability significantly.
I have a friend who reminds people performing a task that "people get finished, chickens get done".
If its somebody that I don't know, or a casual acquaintance, I really don't care; they can call it strawberry short cake for all I care... If my son called a magazine a 'clip,' then I'd explain the correct usage; that's part of my job. If it was a friend, I may, or may not have the conversation, would depend on my mood...
Life's too short to be a grammar/usage Nazi with everyone! My favorite is how worked up some folks get over the term "70 Series Combat Commander," vs. the correct "Pre-80s Series Commander." Give me a break, give it a break...
Life's too short to be a grammar/usage Nazi with everyone! My favorite is how worked up some folks get over the term "70 Series Combat Commander," vs. the correct "Pre-80s Series Commander." Give me a break, give it a break...
straightshooter1
US Veteran
I just don't get upset about the small stuff.
If they call it a clip, so what?
I call it a magazine or mag and they know what I am referring to, just as I know what they are referring to when they call it a clip.
If they call them bullets instead of cartridges, again, so what? We all know what they are talking about and I have heard some pretty firearms savvy folks use those terms.
Too many other things in life to take seriously, and the use of the wrong nomenclature to describe something, when everyone knows what the person means, is not worth worrying about.
IMO, of course.
Bob
If they call it a clip, so what?
I call it a magazine or mag and they know what I am referring to, just as I know what they are referring to when they call it a clip.
If they call them bullets instead of cartridges, again, so what? We all know what they are talking about and I have heard some pretty firearms savvy folks use those terms.
Too many other things in life to take seriously, and the use of the wrong nomenclature to describe something, when everyone knows what the person means, is not worth worrying about.
IMO, of course.
Bob
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