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Taking a gun to a bar is not the smartest thing to do, if you are going to be drinking.
CHL holder trying to break up a fight loses pistol, is killed by police
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Taking a gun to a bar is not the smartest thing to do, if you are going to be drinking.
I don't know he was in the bar. I believe that has been speculation. None of the reports or articles I've read or the videos I've seen say or show that he was at the bar or drinking. If you have evidence that he was, please share. I'll pass it on to Portland Police for you.
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This incident occurred at 1:30 AM, outside a bar near a college campus not outside the shooter's home. He was not walking his dog, changing a flat tire, or visiting his mother. In law enforcement, we call that a clue . . .
Or, he could have just been there just to pick up his friend. We don't know.
A clue at best without any supporting evidence at this point. I sometimes do investigations based upon clues, hints, suggestions, and speculations (plus evidence), but convictions should be based on evidence.
A clue at best without any supporting evidence at this point. I sometimes do investigations based upon clues, hints, suggestions, and speculations (plus evidence), but convictions should be based on evidence.
A: He could have been there to pick up a friend. In the age of Uber, that becomes less likely.
B: He's not on trial here. I'm on the shooter's side, at the moment, because we haven't seen any "evidence," which we won't until a trial with proper instruction from a judge about what the crime is and what we should consider. We're just talking about what happened as it has been publicly reported. Therein lie the clues . . .
Fair enough discusion. Thanks.
True, and that is what I'm talking about. None of the publicly reported stuff that I have seen indicates that Jason was in the bar or had been drinking prior to the exterior events. He may have been in the bar drinking prior to, or he may not have - I can't tell from what has been publicly reported. Anything prior to the publicly reported events (which are outside of the bar) is speculative by us.
Hopefully we'll learn more.
True, and that is what I'm talking about. None of the publicly reported stuff that I have seen indicates that Jason was in the bar or had been drinking prior to the exterior events. He may have been in the bar drinking prior to, or he may not have - I can't tell from what has been publicly reported. Anything prior to the publicly reported events (which are outside of the bar) is speculative by us.
Hopefully we'll learn more.
Similar reactions after the Las Vegas Police killed Erik Scott at a CostCo in 2010. Vegas Police have a reputation for being a little wound up, but who could blame them in that city? The gun community was universally outraged until the Tox Screen came back for high levels of Morphine and Xanax in Scott. It's usually a good idea to reserve judgement until the shooting investigation is done.
Costco shooting victim's family drops lawsuit against Las Vegas police – Las Vegas Review-Journal
Besides the Ferguson MO fiasco, we've had four recent police shootings in the Twin Cities that generated National reactions:
1. The Philando Castile shooting - Investigation revealed Castile did not follow orders and appeared to be reaching for his gun. Tragic, but the CCW guy screwed up. Black Lives Matter said it was murder and rioted.
2. The Justine Damond killing by Officer Mohamed Noor investigation revealed that Noor shot because he was startled by Damond's sudden appearance during a night time response. Noor was "Fast tracked" to get Muslims on the Police Force by the Liberal Politicians, and he wasn't ready.
3. The Jamar Clark shooting found Clark had assaulted an ambulance crew, and tried to steal the intervening Officers gun. Black Lives Matter said it was murder and rioted.
4. There is another shooting now awaiting investigation results where Police killed a man who was shooting into the air and ground in the city. The local press found a picture of the guy wearing a nice business suit and that's all they show...The Guy was a common street thug, but they don't show that.
Costco shooting victim's family drops lawsuit against Las Vegas police – Las Vegas Review-Journal
Besides the Ferguson MO fiasco, we've had four recent police shootings in the Twin Cities that generated National reactions:
1. The Philando Castile shooting - Investigation revealed Castile did not follow orders and appeared to be reaching for his gun. Tragic, but the CCW guy screwed up. Black Lives Matter said it was murder and rioted.
2. The Justine Damond killing by Officer Mohamed Noor investigation revealed that Noor shot because he was startled by Damond's sudden appearance during a night time response. Noor was "Fast tracked" to get Muslims on the Police Force by the Liberal Politicians, and he wasn't ready.
3. The Jamar Clark shooting found Clark had assaulted an ambulance crew, and tried to steal the intervening Officers gun. Black Lives Matter said it was murder and rioted.
4. There is another shooting now awaiting investigation results where Police killed a man who was shooting into the air and ground in the city. The local press found a picture of the guy wearing a nice business suit and that's all they show...The Guy was a common street thug, but they don't show that.
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Regardless of who the cop was talking to, NO ONE should have picked that gun up! How hard is that?
I don't go to bars. Drinks are cheaper at home and the company is markedly better.
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^^^^^^ DING, DING, we have a winner. ^^^^^^
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