Chrome Lined Barrels and Chambers.....

[67tempest]

I own some AR's that are chrome lined and some that aren't. Doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Wouldn't pay extra just to get a chrome lined barrel. A high percentage of foreign made military arms have chrome lined barrels due to the fact that they use a lot of ammo that is corrosive.

My Colt SP1 has no forward assist but all the rest do. It is one feature that I have never used. If a round fails to chamber, I want to get it out, not use the forward assist to ram it in. If I was in a combat situation where my life might depend on chambering that round I may think differently.

 

[REM 3200]

If I was in a combat situation where my life might depend on chambering that round I may think differently.

I'm willing to bet you would.

 

[Maddmax]

do ak-47's and ak-74u's have dust covers and forward assists? if not then they surely seen their fair share of wars in all types of environments. why would the ar-15 be required to have these, then?

It's because that AK is so loose in tolerances that it doesn't need them. One of the best and simplest weapons ever made.They run wet,dry,dirty,clean,hot,cold and in every environment on the planet. They get dirty,you just give them a bath in a dirty creek shake em off and get back at it. Our old M-1's and M-14's were almost that simple too. Our leaders at the time wanted a lighter weapon,lighter rounds (weight wise). The "16" was built with too tight of tolerances,early chambers were unchromed... Then shoved (by the early 60's wizkids) out on the military after a lot of cost & corner cutting and well before it had gone through all the proper testing it should of had before being sent into combat. It's tests were in the field durring that 10,000 day war we called a "police action".

 

[ARGH]

bolt carrier is notched to allow your finger to act as forward assist with a slight nudge. does this not qualify as a forward assist?

if your finger can't forward the bolt then will a forward assist do a better job? if you even require the forward assist to chamber the round then will the next attempt even work, assuming bolt carrier group is that dirty? if its that dirty why not quickly yank out the bolt carrier and wipe it down with your shirt or something?

so many questions. just trying to justify the common saying of "if it aint got forward assist it's not a rifle."

 

[Lost Lake]

Well I didn't say it isn't a rifle without a FA. I just said I prefer having a FA.

There's a dozen reasons to have it. And no, pushing on the serrations isn't the same as hitting the FA.

 

[Maddmax]

bolt carrier is notched to allow your finger to act as forward assist with a slight nudge. does this not qualify as a forward assist?

if your finger can't forward the bolt then will a forward assist do a better job? if you even require the forward assist to chamber the round then will the next attempt even work, assuming bolt carrier group is that dirty? if its that dirty why not quickly yank out the bolt carrier and wipe it down with your shirt or something?

so many questions. just trying to justify the common saying of "if it aint got forward assist it's not a rifle."

Ever pick up a hot pan out of the oven or touch something hot ? The bolt carrier isn't notched for your finger and doesn't just nudge forward... You don't mamby-pamby the forward assist,you RAM it home like there's no tomorrow. You don't yank out a HOT BCG and wipe it off on your shirt or something...this ain't a paintball game we're/they're talking about. One is life and death COMBAT,the other is shooting on the range or hunting.

Over all. I'd need to "play" with the M-4 for about 10,000 rounds and I'd let you know if I needed the forward assist over the M-16-A1 model for combat. For hunting and range time shooting gongs,I can live with-out the forward assist and I don't hunt anything I couldn't drop with my sidearm if need be...