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Probably doubtful. With multiple checks, and numerous applications to sort through, I don't think they will get in any rush.

Way back I had to wait 14 months to buy a Garand. That's back when there was a limit of 8000 per year to be released. Just missed the one year's quota.
 
I agree with H Richard. A factor that some seem to overlook is that CMP has very few employees, and relies heavily on volunteers, so the various processes (inspection, grading, and sorting through whatever the military depots decide to send) eat up a lot of time.

Good luck!
 
Just back from the Post Office. All in all, I did not find the application to join the 1911 Lottery much more difficult to fill out than a typical Federal Income Tax return!! lol

Seriously, the form wasn't all that difficult, and there was a PDF form available which could be filled out on the computer and then printed.

For those who have not done so, you then need to have page 2, IIRC notarized, which for me just meant walking across the hall at work, and then you needed to attach copies of various documents to demonstrate citizenship and age, as well as participation in approvpved clubs and shooting activities, and a copy of your dealers FFL

Mine ran to a total of seven pages, I think. Probably next week I'll remember something I forgot to include!!

So now we wait until after the deadline of October 4th, 2018, when they are supposed to dump all of the applicants (who did everything correctly) into a random number generator, and build a list which they will go down in numerical order contacting them to see who wants whatever they still have when they call.

Complicated, and only 8,000 guns, and some of those are going to be auctioned, so not a lot of chances of getting a shot at a nice 1911.

But.... If you don't participate, you have no chance. So I feel pretty good about throwing my hat in the ring, and guess that I have as good a chance as anyone.

And sure, if you are just looking for a shooter, why bother. But for many of us, it is certainly much more than just getting an"shooter".

Best Regards, Les
 
Sent mine in last Tuesday. I purchased four Garands from them last year and I didn’t think the requirements for the 1911 order packet was that onerous. Better than the alternative that a lot of government officials wanted these 1911’s destroyed.
Good luck to all who enter.
 
Wonder if the USGI 1911 market will dip, with the influx of the CMP pistols ?
 
I thought about putting in an application for the past 2 months but couldn't bring myself to do it. No objections to the CMP pistols I've seen or the price, but not excited enough about getting one.
 
I too put in for one.

Yes you have to get it notarized, something I almost realized too late. Had it in the envelope and ready to go when I read the fine print online...

With only 8,000 guns and what could be 100,000 or more entries I don't have my hopes up. I figure if I don't like what I get, there will be someone to take it off my hands for what I have into it, maybe more.
 
My package is sitting here, waiting to hear back from the Garand Collectors Association. Paid for my membership in June, and never heard a thing. They've also ignored all emails.

I'll give it another day, then join some other qualifying organization.

After all the grousing and sour grapes I've read on the internet, I figured I'd be the only one putting in! Guess not.
 
Sig.... you should be good with your retired LEO...Probably don’t need the Garand Collectors membership... just a copy of your retired credentials should do also for the shooting part ...


“2. Membership in CMP Affiliated Organization: You must provide a copy of your current membership card or other proof of membership. This requirement cannot be waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country. Membership in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated organizations can be found by clicking on our “CLUBS” tab on our web site at Civilian Marksmanship Program |.
In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates include:
• Congressionally chartered veterans’ organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc.
• U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Copy of ID required.
• Law Enforcement departments and agencies and Law Enforcement organizations and associations (to include LEO retirees). Copy of ID required.
3. Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity:
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity can be with rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof
CMP 1911 www.CMP1911.TheCMP.org
of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
• Current or past military or law enforcement service.
• Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun
competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
• Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
• Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
• Concealed Carry License.
• Firearms Owner Identification Card that includes live
fire training.
• FFL or C&R license.
• Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included
live fire training.
• Certification from range or club official or law
enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your range firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site at Error 404 Not Found | Civilian Marksmanship Program. pdf.
• No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. Proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages.”

I used that plus my American Legion membership.

Best Regards, Les
 
I'll get one but 2nd hand. When I was into M1 Garands I purchased many CMP M1's 2nd hand on the CMP for sale forum. The .45's will end up there 2 and one will be able to see what you are getting. Sure, the certificate won't be in your name but hey I'd rather know I'll be happy getting what I wanted. You used to be able to have an agent select a M1 in person at the CMP store and they run your card and process your purchase package and ship to you but alas they put an end to people acting as agents. Shame too as I couldn't make it to the South Store but had someone select several original WW2 S/A and Winchester M1's and an M1D for me. I just can't risk the lottery. Did that once and got something I ended up hating.
 
les.b said:
Just back from the Post Office. All in all, I did not find the application to join the 1911 Lottery much more difficult to fill out than a typical Federal Income Tax return!! lol

Seriously, the form wasn't all that difficult, and there was a PDF form available which could be filled out on the computer and then printed.

For those who have not done so, you then need to have page 2, IIRC notarized, which for me just meant walking across the hall at work, and then you needed to attach copies of various documents to demonstrate citizenship and age, as well as participation in approvpved clubs and shooting activities, and a copy of your dealers FFL

Mine ran to a total of seven pages, I think. Probably next week I'll remember something I forgot to include!!

So now we wait until after the deadline of October 4th, 2018, when they are supposed to dump all of the applicants (who did everything correctly) into a random number generator, and build a list which they will go down in numerical order contacting them to see who wants whatever they still have when they call.

Complicated, and only 8,000 guns, and some of those are going to be auctioned, so not a lot of chances of getting a shot at a nice 1911.

But.... If you don't participate, you have no chance. So I feel pretty good about throwing my hat in the ring, and guess that I have as good a chance as anyone.

And sure, if you are just looking for a shooter, why bother. But for many of us, it is certainly much more than just getting an"shooter".

Best Regards, Les
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TO BE HONEST Les, IMHO THE CHANCES THAT ANYTHING BETTER THAN A "SHOOTER" GRADE PISTOL WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS LOTTERY, ARE SLIM TO NONE......

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT FEEL THAT, "it is certainly much more than just getting a shooter" ? ? ?

PERHAPS, ITS JUST THE EXCITEMENT OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS HISTORIC EVENT......

I PURCHASED A GARAND IN THE MID 1980s FROM THE CMP. IIRC IT WAS OVER A YEAR LONG PROCESS, THAT REWARDED ME WITH A NICE SPRINGFIELD ARMORY WEAPON, WITH AN ORIGINAL SA BARREL IN GREAT CONDITION, MOSTLY SA PARTS, AND AN ORIGINAL SA STOCK, WITH VISIBLE CARTOUCHES. THAT WAS QUITE A DEAL FOR $165. IT CLEANED UP VERY NICELY, AND WAS A GREAT SHOOTER.......

I DOUBT THAT THERE WILL BE MANY EXPERIENCES LIKE MY GARAND STORY, EMANATING FROM THIS 1911 EVENT. PERHAPS I AM BEING OVERLY PESSIMISTIC---TIME WILL TELL....

BEST WISHES, AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS......
 
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Joe, thanks for your post. You are right about one thing. This was and continues to be a historic event. Many people in high places wanted to see all former military firearms destroyed. Just having these historic guns available to be sold to ordinary folks like you and me is a political victory of great significance. I don't think that most of us think that if we are chosen to buy one of these guns that we are going to get a pristine collector's item that we can flip and double our money on. Nor do most of us think we may score a tack driving competition gun that we can start winning bullseye matches with. Rather, I think that if I were to buy one of these guns that I would be buying a slice of American history.

And remember, just mailing in the application doesn't obligate us to actually buy the gun that we may or may not one day be offered. But the way that I understand this particular lottery to work is that those folks who enter this year and who are not chosen this year will automatically be moved to the top of next years lottery (if there is a next year lottery). So it seems prudent to enter this years group or risk not even being in the running next year, or way down the list anyway.

Best Regards, Les
 
Got my one and only Garand from the DCM, predecessor to the CMP!$165 delivered. 16 month’s and one per lifetime. In the 1911 drawing. If you don’t get in now, you probably never will, as your random number carries over in sequence until your number comes up or they ultimately run out of pistols.
 
Thanks, Les! I'll be dropping my package in the mail tomorrow then.

I'm with you - this is a chance to get a real piece of history straight from the U.S. military. I don't expect anything other than a representative 1911A1 that would come through the armory window and go into the holster of a GI.

I have never gotten a lemon from the CMP - multiple Garands, a Remington 40X, and a 1903A3. All were better than I expected. If the 1911A1 lets me down I'll still be ahead of the game. (And I bet it will always be worth more than I pay!)

So - Good luck to all! I can't wait to see the pictures when these old soldiers start hitting our FFLs.

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