kbm6893
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No confirmation. They have tens of thousands of applications. I know my stuff was in order and I sent it registered mail to track it. it arrived there.
CMP 1911 Application
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No confirmation. They have tens of thousands of applications. I know my stuff was in order and I sent it registered mail to track it. it arrived there.
sigp220.45
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Nope - the lotto numbers are assigned to the unopened envelope. You won’t hear anything until they get to your number, and if your paperwork isn’t correct you won’t hear anything at all. It just goes in the trash and they open the next number. This is per the CMP Answer Man in their forum.
They recognize it may be years between the package being submitted and being opened, so they will call to update addresses and FFL status, but that’s it. If all the required stuff isn’t in there, its on to the next.
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Go to link below, click on link
Read, Take Notes, Read again.
1911 Information - Civilian Marksmanship ProgramCivilian Marksmanship Program
Read, Take Notes, Read again.
1911 Information - Civilian Marksmanship ProgramCivilian Marksmanship Program
Having used these in service, those that are convinced they will be all clapped out rattle traps are simply wrong.
While a pistol issued to a high op tempo unit, mp detail for base security, or the mp or armor schools may indeed be pretty beat, this no universal. For example when I was still an enlisted guy ( retired many years later as an offficer) I was assigned to a medical unit-they had about a dozen Remington rands all original and about 90% finish. They were taken out of the arms room once a year on qualification day, and for field training where they were carried in holsters, cleaned and returned. Since we were not issue ammo for field training ( making carrying the pistol pretty pointless) many troops would wrap them in plastic bags to keep them clean so they got very little wear.
Also ( again with the exception of MP details and armor units ) pistols were mostly assigned to officers and senior nco’s who cared for equipment, and unlike a rifle constantly exposed to the elements they rode protected in holsters
While a pistol issued to a high op tempo unit, mp detail for base security, or the mp or armor schools may indeed be pretty beat, this no universal. For example when I was still an enlisted guy ( retired many years later as an offficer) I was assigned to a medical unit-they had about a dozen Remington rands all original and about 90% finish. They were taken out of the arms room once a year on qualification day, and for field training where they were carried in holsters, cleaned and returned. Since we were not issue ammo for field training ( making carrying the pistol pretty pointless) many troops would wrap them in plastic bags to keep them clean so they got very little wear.
Also ( again with the exception of MP details and armor units ) pistols were mostly assigned to officers and senior nco’s who cared for equipment, and unlike a rifle constantly exposed to the elements they rode protected in holsters
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If you get one and don't like it, send me a PM and we'll talk. Seriously.
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Well I sent my CMP 1911 application today, wonder what the odds are going to end up to get a gun this year.
GOOD LUCK, glenncal1.....
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hkcavalier
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Has anyone received an email or other notification from CMP yet? The website mentioned they would start on October 5th.
I realize this is a government agency, but I can't believe they would sit and wait for each "winner" to give them notification, in order, for 8,000 guns. That would take years.
I realize this is a government agency, but I can't believe they would sit and wait for each "winner" to give them notification, in order, for 8,000 guns. That would take years.
sigp220.45
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The CMP guy who answers the questions on their forum has given different answers to this very question.
Initially he said the numbers would be applied to the unopened packets, so they would have no way to notify anyone until they got to that number, opened and verified the package contents, then either threw it in the trash (if not correct) or called with what was available.
Lately, he has said it is their intention to notify everyone of their spot in line. So, I don't know what to think.
I just checked and they are saying they have received over 17000 packets, and are waiting for any that may still be enroute and postmarked on or before 10/4. If that number holds it is good news - probably 2000 will get tossed, so the odds for a good package should be about 50/50.
Since today is a federal holiday, and the deadline fell on the weekend, and I would guess that they will wait at least a week, we still have some time to go. I'm surprised that only 17,000 applications were received!!
I sure don t know what is going to happen, but I've got a little "mad" money tucked away just in case.
Best Regards, Les
I sure don t know what is going to happen, but I've got a little "mad" money tucked away just in case.
Best Regards, Les
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I didn't apply either because I felt it would be kind of unfair. I bought two birth year 1942 Colt 1911A1s many years ago. One was all original parts; the other had some change-outs. They're in very good condition so I figure some desk soldiers had them. I and a number of good friends served 1964-1968. Those who had 1911s issued to them all agreed they were rattle-traps they couldn't hit a barn with. While the guns certainly did rattle the real problem was the Army never really trained people with them. Once a year and a few rounds was about it.
Good luck to everyone who really wants one. Those who are profiteers might get a rude surprise when they sell. Then again, if the next President isn't NRA approved the DCM will be ordered to destroy the inventory.
Good luck to everyone who really wants one. Those who are profiteers might get a rude surprise when they sell. Then again, if the next President isn't NRA approved the DCM will be ordered to destroy the inventory.
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Well that's encouraging. I would have figured the number would have been north of 50,000.
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You've personally seen them, all 8,000 of them, and inspected them? How did you reach this conclusion?
Not sure where you get the idea they're "non-firing". These pistols aren't replicas or toy guns. The barrels aren't plugged. They're in working condition. The CMP isn't going to sell a gun that doesn't work.
I don't believe all of them will be Frankenguns, either. I'm sure some will have been rearsenaled/reworked. Maybe the majority of them. But others will be original, I think. "Frankengun", by the way, is sort of a nebulous term. What about a vintage 27-2 that's had the rear sight blade replaced? Or a 29-2 that's had the front sight insert replaced? Are those Frankenguns?
If you think $850 is an "outrageous" price for a fully functional 1911A1 of WWII vintage, then you're completely out of the loop when it comes to the current market for these guns.
Only 17,000? No surprise with all the negative posts here and around the net.
“It’s overpriced, they got them cheap and trying to make a killing, give them to GI’s only, they abandoned their mission, I can get a Garand for fill in the blank”(not sure how anyone compares a Garand to a WW2 1911
), etc.I have a 50/50 chance this round, that’s as good as can be expected.
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CMP 1911 Update
According to a post today on the CMP 1911 Forum, calls are going out from CMP staff to individuals that filed application packets for the M1911 pistols. So, it sounds like the "random number generator" has been run and spit out the list of successful applicants. The post states that it may be an additional 60 days before shipping.
According to a post today on the CMP 1911 Forum, calls are going out from CMP staff to individuals that filed application packets for the M1911 pistols. So, it sounds like the "random number generator" has been run and spit out the list of successful applicants. The post states that it may be an additional 60 days before shipping.
sigp220.45
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I’ve never seen 12 pages of posts appear so fast once that guy posted he got the call!
The wait truly begins now. Notice they didn’t notify anyone of their place in line before they started calling.
Yeah...I've been following this with a degree of interest as well. Personally I would rather the guys in Anniston spent their time getting the orders made and boxed up and shipped, rather than worrying about all the guys who are fretting about where they stand, and whether they forgot something in the package, and so on!!
I guess I'm as keyed up as anyone, but if those guys down there have to stop and answer questions all day long they will take that much longer to do the actual job of pulling this really complicated process together.
Just my two cents. I'm anxious as well.
Thanks for the heads up, I went over to the CMP forum as well, and will lurk there waiting to see what info leaks out.
Good luck everyone!!
Best Regards, Les
I guess I'm as keyed up as anyone, but if those guys down there have to stop and answer questions all day long they will take that much longer to do the actual job of pulling this really complicated process together.
Just my two cents. I'm anxious as well.
Thanks for the heads up, I went over to the CMP forum as well, and will lurk there waiting to see what info leaks out.
Good luck everyone!!
Best Regards, Les
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