Concealed carry in Post Offices

[Capt. F.]

Recently while in our local Post Office I noticed the No Handguns placard that has been in Post Offices since forever.
I brought it to the Post Misteress’ attention that law was ruled Unconstitutional, I believe in 2022.
The lady became very unpleasant and told me to take it up with higher authorities. I suggested nicely, SHE take it up with them.
I don’t believe I’ll see a welcome mat at the Post Office out for me in the future.
Have I interpreted the ruling incorrectly or was it overruled by a higher court?

 

[stansdds]

I would not carry in a U.S. Post Office unless the SCOTUS rules that such restrictions are a violation of the constitution. Will that happen? No, it will not as such a ruling would make it legal to carry firearms in federal buildings, including court houses. The SCOTUS certainly does not want armed citizens inside court houses.

 

[375hh1973]

Concealed is concealed.

How would they know?

I go inside a post office maybe half dozen times a year.

I can sleep at night

 

[Sgt. Buzzard]

I don't know if HR218/ LEOSA applies here. Can't say as I'd worry about it. Concealed is concealed. Even my LEO buddies can't tell if I'm carrying.

 

[ladder13]

My little PO is about the size of a clothing closet with the friendliest clerk, Mary. Some quick chit chat and we both go about our day.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Recently while in our local Post Office I noticed the No Handguns placard that has been in Post Offices since forever.
I brought it to the Post Misteress’ attention that law was ruled Unconstitutional, I believe in 2022.
The lady became very unpleasant and told me to take it up with higher authorities. I suggested nicely, SHE take it up with them.
I don’t believe I’ll see a welcome mat at the Post Office out for me in the future.
Have I interpreted the ruling incorrectly or was it overruled by a higher court?

That was a Middle District of Florida case wherein the Judge ruled that the law was unconstitutional "as applied to [the defendant] . . . " Carries no weight anywhere else, for anyone else . . .

 

[s&wchad]

That was a Middle District of Florida case wherein the Judge ruled that the law was unconstitutional "as applied to [the defendant] . . . " Carries no weight anywhere else, for anyone else . . .

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They even consider it illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle on PO property.

 

[Greyman50]

Don’t want to CC on VA property, not suppose to even have one in vehicle.

 

[max503]

I would not have brought it up to the person at the counter. They can't do anything. Part of concealed carrying is to not mention it, never, ever, ever.
You dig, daddy-o?

 

[SASFixer]

Concealed is concealed.

How would they know?

I go inside a post office maybe half dozen times a year.

I can sleep at night

Pointing out things like that is asking for trouble, especially if you regularly visit the PO on a regular time and day. My gage is, "is their a metal detector present?" The "no firearms rule" is an issue if there is an issue raised. FFLs are allowed to take a firearm into a PO if it is packed for shipment but a non-FFL cannot. The FFL has to also have a PO disclosure document form submitted. It is easier to ship from a PO in my locality because there are no UPS/FedX shippers. There are contract shippers but they all reject firearms.

 

[FPrice]

Don't ask, don't tell.

 

[gwpercle]

Recently while in our local Post Office I noticed the No Handguns placard that has been in Post Offices since forever.
I brought it to the Post Misteress’ attention that law was ruled Unconstitutional, I believe in 2022.
The lady became very unpleasant and told me to take it up with higher authorities. I suggested nicely, SHE take it up with them.
I don’t believe I’ll see a welcome mat at the Post Office out for me in the future.
Have I interpreted the ruling incorrectly or was it overruled by a higher court?

Be careful ... those workers can ... "Go Postal" on you !
Gary

 

[FraggerCrue]

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They even consider it illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle on PO property.

My mom (now deceased) worked for the USPS for 20+ years as a rural carrier. She had a S&W 36 in her vehicle the entire time she worked there. And she used it on more than one occasion, at least once to shoot a rattlesnake. What the USPS didn't know didn't hurt them.

In case anyone is wondering, rural carriers have the option to provide their own vehicle, which she did.

 

[Airdale26]

I would not carry in a U.S. Post Office unless the SCOTUS rules that such restrictions are a violation of the constitution. Will that happen? No, it will not as such a ruling would make it legal to carry firearms in federal buildings, including court houses. The SCOTUS certainly does not want armed citizens inside court houses.

There has been some discussion on this issue recently. There was list of federal facilities that are re-examining of the prohibition. USPS was one such location. Not yet official as far as I am aware. But the discussion is progressing forward. List include select Gov area, National monument, parks and USPS. So until it becomes official, I would not carry .

 

[65-2x2]

I am not going to risk my ability to own and carry a firearm by carrying in a PO. Nor do I have the disposable funds to defend a case of carrying one in a PO. I unholster my carry and put it in the glove box for a trip into the PO. He who defends all, defends nothing.

 

[wrangler5]

< snip > FFLs are allowed to take a firearm into a PO if it is packed for shipment but a non-FFL cannot. The FFL has to also have a PO disclosure document form submitted. < snip >

I thought that these rules apply only to mailing of handguns, and that anyone could mail a long gun.

 

[Rule3]

Federal Law

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml...)&f=treesort&edition=prelim&num=0&jumpTo=true

The case the OP posted about was only for that specific case.

Judge Rules Ban On Firearms In Post Offices Unconstitutional In Landmark Case » Concealed Carry Inc

Judge Mizelle rules: Ban on post office firearms unconstitutional. A pivotal moment in the debate on individual rights vs. public safety. #LegalMilestone

www.concealedcarry.com

 

[tlawler]

My mom (now deceased) worked for the USPS for 20+ years as a rural carrier. She had a S&W 36 in her vehicle the entire time she worked there. And she used it on more than one occasion, at least once to shoot a rattlesnake. What the USPS didn't know didn't hurt them.

In case anyone is wondering, rural carriers have the option to provide their own vehicle, which she did.

I’m reminded of the 1987 Palm Bay, Florida shooting by William Cruse that killed several people including two police officers. There was a postal carrier that had a 1911 with a single mag that shot at Cruse, but didn’t hit him at the beginning of his shooting spree.

 

[326MOD10]

Not only can't Joe Citizen carry a firearm into a Post Office, a local Johnny Law can't either, unless on official business.

It is like most federal facilities.

I don't carry at the PO, concealed or otherwise, and if left locked up in the car I park on the city street.

I always chuckle when people who are all about getting those criminals off the street don't feel the same about following the law when it inconveniences them.

This Federal gun offense would be no different than any other.

 

[Tony Tiger]

Walk in carrying a large chuckable rock and set it on the counter and when they ask what is that, say my self defence rock.