Confiscated Firearms

[M29since14]

I keep forgetting about the possibility to turn these “buy back” farces into a financial advantage.

We don’t see them too often here in Indiana anymore. Not sure why. Maybe they were getting too lucrative for some of us devious types who are “community-minded.”

 

[jkingrph]

You know what's even worse? All those guns that come into cities from non gun control states! They get off the bus and start shooting people left and right! According to some we lose 1 million people a day to them. Those bullets just implode and can take out a lung. There outta be a law!

Rick

BS

 

[Al M]

You just reminded me . . . . .Back in the early 1960’s, I was a LEO.
In a meeting room at the station, there was an old fashioned wooden office desk . . . .you know the ones with the very large, deep, file drawer down on the left side.
In this drawer were a bunch (level full ) of confiscated handguns . . . .mostly cheap “Saturday nite Specials,” . . . .and lying on top was an artillery model Luger!
All these were destined for destruction, but I bet some cop took the Luger before it was melted!

I’ve been a Cop for over 30 years and I’ve gotten some amazing guns and deals. All legitimate, folks just don’t want guns in their homes after a loved one passed.

 

[Kal.38]

There are a few places online that will sell directly to credentialed LE/Military members active and retired. Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore online regularly has police trade-in guns.

 

['79 Magnum GT]

BS

See post #24

Rick

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

I strongly oppose the term "Buy Back" as the buyers didn't own the firearms to begin with!

Who determines who owns the firearm?

Grandpa bought a firearm at Western Auto in 1965. Grandpa died in 1995 so whose firearm is it today?

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

I’ve been a Cop for over 30 years and I’ve gotten some amazing guns and deals. All legitimate, folks just don’t want guns in their homes after a loved one passed.

Same here before I retired.

But the teenager who committed suicide with the family’s Home Defense revolver was a no go for me.

 

[Jim Watson]

All legitimate, folks just don’t want guns in their homes after a loved one passed.

But the teenager who committed suicide with the family’s Home Defense revolver was a no go for me.

Same deal. A friend has his late brother's guns, except the one he shot himself with and the one he apparently had laid out as an alternate or backup.

On the other hand, my late Uncle was very proud of the revolver that had been used to kill a man, justifiably or not, I don't have the whole story.
On the gripping hand, another friend had occasion to shoot an assailant. One of the other deputies schmoozed one of the bullets recovered from the assailant's body from the coroner. Morbid.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

On the gripping hand, another friend had occasion to shoot an assailant. One of the other deputies schmoozed one of the bullets recovered from the assailant's body from the coroner. Morbid.

Jim I may know who you mentioned.

At Crime Scenes besides bullet casings occasionally bullets that past through the victim is found on the floor or ground too.

 

[Kal.38]

Who determines who owns the firearm?

Grandpa bought a firearm at Western Auto in 1965. Grandpa died in 1995 so whose firearm is it today?

Afternoon Sarge,
In my case they are mine by chain of custody and possession. My state has no crazy transfer requirements.
A sweet old lady who sat across from grandpa for 58 years. Gave me the code to the gun cabinet, told me where to look around the house. Then she said "You should take all those guns home, I don't want the comfortcare gals getting any smart ideas. Plus your grandfather wanted you to have them anyway."

 

[Rocketmedic40]

My great-grandfather left us a few guns…some flavor of bolt-action rifle, a 12g Winchester 1200, and I think a .22LR? My idiotic father pawned the rifles, I long ago “rehomed” the shotgun where it isn’t at risk of such things. It ain’t mine per se, it’s going to the next generation when they’re old enough.

Likewise, my dad’s mom’s husband (my Grandpa Art, the Vietnam door gunner) wanted his Marlin 336 out of the house after Grandma died and Dad took it home. He shot it a few times at the range with us, but it was forgotten, in a canvas wrap, in a molding garage pile of crap. When my parents got divorced, Mom told me to recover everything I wanted to rescue, because Dad was both an idiot and was getting evicted. Naturally, I had a priority list…the Marlin, her shotgun and rifle, the old Nichols Family Bible, etc. The mission was successful, and even though there were some hurt feelings from my Dad, I sternly told him that those artifacts weren’t things to be ignored, neglected, pawned or destroyed because they’re ours as a family. Helped that Art was still alive and very vehemently opposed to Dad “dishonoring” his name and rifle, he gave it to me and asked that I pass it on to my kids or some nephews. I think that’s the best fate for it.

It still makes me mad. Dad would habituallyleave the garage open, invite over strangers, etc….not smart, or respectful, or safe at all. He quite frankly barely deserves to be trusted with a firearm period. To my knowledge, he’s never kept one…always pawns them. I gave him a Hi-Pointg and a Taurus I haven’t seen in decades.

 

[biku324]

Not every male who makes a baby is a dad.

 

[Rocketmedic40]

Not every male who makes a baby is a dad.

Eh, he’s a n OK dad most of the time. Just irresponsible with money and things like legacies and where to go to sleep. I learned a lot from the lighthouse that he is…don’t sail those waters!

Jean-Luc Picard and Ben Sisko are more Dad than he is from a learning perspective. And I have to thank my sergeants for helping me grow up. My kids, when they’re eventually around, will learn better.

That Marlin was the first gun I ever fired. Seven is a little young for a .30-30, but it’s a core memory now lol. I hit the tree we were aiming at, and dropped it.

 

[mscampbell2734]

As said before every state is different.

In Los Angeles for years the 1911s carried by SWAT were confiscated crime guns. Other weapons, with court order, were taken by the LAPD crime lab for the collection.

In general after a certain poundage, yes measured in pounds, of guns and accumulated drugs, had built up a huge dog and pony show was put on and the guns and drugs were taken out to the only steel mill left in Southern California and went into the smelter.

 

[Rocketmedic40]

Just another reason I’m beyond glad I was able to get Grandpa’s rifle out of California!

 

[MelvinWalker]

I have a fair collection of parts. I have bought them off Ebay, here and a few other spots. I have never bought one of the "parts kits", because for the price I might as well buy a junker off Center fire systems although right now they haven't got much inventory. But with some patience just about anything you want will show up on Ebay for a reasonable amount

It's usually always cheaper on parts kit sites....So much so, that I have many sets that I have resold on Ebay and kept the target grips...686, 19, 681,10, 14, etc....I still have those and a bunch of J frame kits I got a couple of years ago.

 

[Shrek Of The Arctic]

Thankfully, my home state of Alaska is pretty good that way. Infact, one of my favorite guns came to me through the Troopers...sorta. This is a tragic comedy of a story, so beware...

My Father in Law was an equipment operator for a local utility company. The old man was like a raccoon. Anything shiny just caught his eye and he just HAD to check it out. Consequently, he had quite a collection of old hub caps and car parts for awhile. One day he was roading his backhoe along one of the more rural roads and stopped to check out something shiny. It was a S&W 64 with a 2" bbl.! How neat! so, he picked it up, took it home, and cleaned it up real nice and purty. He had it for about a week when his wife finally nagged at him enough for him to turn it into the State Troopers. Surely, it didn't have anything to do with the gas station a half mile up the road from where he'd found it that had just been robbed a couple weeks before?

So, he took the purty S&W he had found and cleaned so very thoroughly and turned it into the State Troopers. Miraculously, it could not be traced to any crime! Somehow, not an incriminating finger print to be found on it! So, it was three...six months later that nobody called or came by to claim it, the Troopers called him to come and collect it. It was now officially his.

It now belongs to me as a war trophy of sorts, and I really do love it like crazy. It's a real fun story to tell, but to continue the tales of this guns travels would go way off topic.

Suffice to say, I think the Troopers were pretty great in the matter, even if....other folks in the story leave ya' face palming. In his defense, there are LOTS of guns that get lost in Alaska every year. I once took a walk of shame along the road looking for a Buckmark I'd lost off a dirtbike, so...there is some plausible deniability with regards to that 64 having been used in a crime...but not much.

 

[steelslaver]

So what your saying is "if you find a gun clean it up real well before you turn it over to law enforcement." They could definitely have traced a model 64 to the first person who bought it using the serial number. Be more difficult to trace it though several owners if resold especially outside of FFLs. But, in the past I have traded guns at gun shops and at this point couldn't tell you what went where. The old trace it by the marks on the bullets or case is an extremely long shot that only happens on TV.

Around here if I found a gun somewhere like a ditch or wild the sheriff would most likely give it back to me if he couldn't figure out who it belonged to. I think Montana has a law against destroying guns that end up in the legal system for any reason.

 

[biku324]

So what your saying is "if you find a gun clean it up real well before you turn it over to law enforcement." They could definitely have traced a model 64 to the first person who bought it using the serial number. Be more difficult to trace it though several owners if resold especially outside of FFLs. But, in the past I have traded guns at gun shops and at this point couldn't tell you what went where. The old trace it by the marks on the bullets or case is an extremely long shot that only happens on TV.

Around here if I found a gun somewhere like a ditch or wild the sheriff would most likely give it back to me if he couldn't figure out who it belonged to. I think Montana has a law against destroying guns that end up in the legal system for any reason.

On March 15, 1969, in the mid-morning, my sister and I were walking along O Highway in Lawrence County on the west side of the Turnback Creek Bridge. There in the grass I found a Ruger Standard Model 22 semiauto pistol. It looked fairly new; I picked it up, pulled the slide back, and a live 22 round popped out. We took the pistol to our house and told my mother - she called the Sheriff.

The pistol had been used, along with 2 others, to murder an 18 year-old gas station attendant 3 miles away. Once the Sheriff had that firearm, he had searchers check all along O Highway and found the other murder weapons. Two murderers were caught, convicted, and the one still living is yet in prison in Missouri.

Glad I didn't decide to keep that nice pistol or clean off the fingerprints.

 

[Shrek Of The Arctic]

So what your saying is "if you find a gun clean it up real well before you turn it over to law enforcement." They could definitely have traced a model 64 to the first person who bought it using the serial number. Be more difficult to trace it though several owners if resold especially outside of FFLs. But, in the past I have traded guns at gun shops and at this point couldn't tell you what went where. The old trace it by the marks on the bullets or case is an extremely long shot that only happens on TV.

Around here if I found a gun somewhere like a ditch or wild the sheriff would most likely give it back to me if he couldn't figure out who it belonged to. I think Montana has a law against destroying guns that end up in the legal system for any reason.

I think yer misunderstanding my chagrin in the matter...

They ain't gunna trace no serial # to nobody up here. I have had friends get calls from the Troopers if a gun they owned many moons ago comes up in a crime, but no one is shocked and appalled if a man shrugs his shoulders and says "Heck...I sold that at a garage sale 17 years ago. I think. If it's the AR I'm thinking of..." Ain't nobody tracking private sales up here, and I like it fine that way.

But as a state Peace Officer myself, I think the destruction of fingerprints is particularly negligent, because with a 65% recidivism rate, in AK state prisons. Many of these are slow learners that keep doing the same stupid sh....tuff. There's a better than decent chance of a set of felonious prints being left behind if it was the gun used in that recent robbery up here, especially given how rare robberies are here. I agree that the ole trace by the ballistics, etc. stuff primarily exists to make NCIS shows seem more interesting that reality, but I DO value a good set of prints which were thoughtlessly destroyed. To be objective though, the cops may or may not have bothered to check for prints. Could be I'm a bit less than objective because in later years, that gun was fired at me.